WI: Star Wars Trilogies switched?

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That's... er... less than productive.

I'm venting this thread brought it up :p

So what do you think of a world in which he comes up with something more similar to the prequel trilogy of OTL first?

AFAIK Lucas said he made the movies in the 4-5-6-1-2-3- order because he knew that the prequel explanations would not be as popular, so he wanted to "fun" stuff to come out first. I remember that as a rumor. At least I will be happy that this ATL has a more consistent universe inside, which will be good. Maybe it'll make Star Wars into something like Gundam in Japan (to use the analogy).

I edited my post to grow as well :p

What are your thoughts on an alternate timeline containing something along these lines?

As much as it pains me to wonder if the TL and universe I am used to dies away, I'm interested to see if this new timeline keeps the cool parts of the universe in OTL as well as removes the crud like the Yuuzhan Vong invasion as well as the family life aspects in the Second Galatric Civil War novels (Legacy of the Force novel series)

EDIT: Seriously, I hate the Yuuzhan Vong invasion - that is utter crap. I also hated the later Star Wars novels set in the Galactic Civil War (12 years after Endor to 16 years post-Endor, or 16-19 ABY using in-universe New Republic dating systems)

AND WHY DID YOU NOT COMMENT ON THE "BOWIE-WAN KENOBI" IDEA?!

Im not good with casting and actors honestly. I'd be okay with rebooting the Star Wars universe as an anime series and hoping they get all the canon rules set up/fixed/incorporate EU into canon. :p

So dont ask me too much abotu that kind'o stuff!
 
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I'm venting this thread brought it up :p



AFAIK Lucas said he made the movies in the 4-5-6-1-2-3- order because he knew that the prequel explanations would not be as popular, so he wanted to "fun" stuff to come out first. I remember that as a rumor. At least I will be happy that this ATL has a more consistent universe inside, which will be good. Maybe it'll make Star Wars into something like Gundam in Japan (to use the analogy).

I edited my post to grow as well :p



As much as it pains me to wonder if the TL and universe I am used to dies away, I'm interested to see if this new timeline keeps the cool parts of the universe in OTL as well as removes the crud like the Yuuzhan Vong invasion as well as the family life aspects in the Second Galatric Civil War novels (Legacy of the Force novel series)

EDIT: Seriously, I hate the Yuuzhan Vong invasion - that is utter crap. I also hated the later Star Wars novels set in the Galactic Civil War (12 years after Endor to 16 years post-Endor, or 16-19 ABY using in-universe New Republic dating systems)



Im not good with casting and actors honestly. I'd be okay with rebooting the Star Wars universe as an anime series and hoping they get all the canon rules set up/fixed/incorporate EU into canon. :p

So dont ask me too much abotu that kind'o stuff!

Great feedback on this as well as (the edited version of) your original post.

This thread (and others I have recently posted in After-1900) is intended (now officially) as an idea springboard to a much larger cultural TL I'm working on, which, will admittedly be a "my-own-personal-opinion-on-music-and-film-wank" but will be rooted initially in real life alternate probabilities/possibilities and the swarm of pop cultural butterflies that result up until present day. I'm also using a "reader's choice" approach to combine my own fantasy twentieth century cultural history with that of others on this forum.

I'm making this clear so that nobody goes to this thread, reads a bunch of fanboydom and assumes that this is in the absolute wrong forum...:D

As I go along coming up with an alternate Original Trilogy and later an alternate sequel trilogy I encourage as much feedback as possible, negative or otherwise, unless it is little more than, "This could never happen and is ASB because Lucas would not have come up with these ideas first no matter what." That is the purpose of this thread. That he does, more or less, and the result is a hybrid of the original and prequel trilogy followed by discussion on the resulting history of pop culture and film thereafter.

I'm just making this coherent and clear to everyone now before I continue...

That being said, I'm hitting a wall on taking the basic plot of AOTC and adding elements and locations from TESB and making it incredible. I'm thirsty for feedback. Here's what I've got so far:

1. Jango Fett and Boba Fett's names will be switched/changed but not their characters. Boba Fett is the bounty hunter who spawns the Clone Army. His young personal clone will go on to work with the Empire in the sequel trilogy.

2. Billy Dee Williams as Mace Windi, Jedi Master (and bad muthafuckah...).

3. Initial assassination attempt on the Queen is by an Assassin Droid ("Probe droid" analgous to the ones in TESB searches out the Queen and self destructs as her decoy departs her transport. Opening the 1980 sequel to Star Wars with a good explosion seems like a good idea to me.)

3. The cloning facility and all of "Kamino" is on Bespin or Hoth (And is probably called by one of those names). "Geonosis" is either a swamp world (Dagobah) or an ice world (Hoth).

4. Count Dooku (name?) is a character who I believe will remain essentially intact, but I'm thinking about combining him with Grand Moff Tarkin and/or Nute Gunray making him a character that appears and is to some degree important in the first film. It is only later discovered that he is a fallen Jedi and Sidious' new Sith Apprentice. Another question... Peter Cushing or Christopher Lee? I'm leaning towards the former and thinking of creating a role for the latter in the sequel trilogy. Thoughts?

5. I'm starting to get ideas... more to come... FEEDBACK!

6. Anybody any good with making customized alternate universe movie posters and/or album covers? ;)
 
1. Jango Fett and Boba Fett's names will be switched/changed but not their characters. Boba Fett is the bounty hunter who spawns the Clone Army. His young personal clone will go on to work with the Empire in the sequel trilogy.

2. Billy Dee Williams as Mace Windi, Jedi Master (and bad muthafuckah...).

Good choices thus far, though maybe you should have *Jango as his real son, so that you don't have to go through the trouble of finding an (almost) identical looking character for the Sequels. Furthermore: How about making *Jango the Han Solo of the Sequels, disgusted by the army created by his father and Sideous?

And Billy Dee as Mace Windi: Smooth!

3. Initial assassination attempt on the Queen is by an Assassin Droid ("Probe droid" analgous to the ones in TESB searches out the Queen and self destructs as her decoy departs her transport. Opening the 1980 sequel to Star Wars with a good explosion seems like a good idea to me.)

Good idea.

3. The cloning facility and all of "Kamino" is on Bespin or Hoth (And is probably called by one of those names). "Geonosis" is either a swamp world (Dagobah) or an ice world (Hoth).

Take Hoth for "Kamino", seeing how the additional cooling helps. "Geonosis" should be swamp-ish. And make "Naboo" Utapau, makes sense since that name was floating around for the princess' home world back then.

4. Count Dooku (name?) is a character who I believe will remain essentially intact, but I'm thinking about combining him with Grand Moff Tarkin and/or Nute Gunray making him a character that appears and is to some degree important in the first film. It is only later discovered that he is a fallen Jedi and Sidious' new Sith Apprentice. Another question... Peter Cushing or Christopher Lee? I'm leaning towards the former and thinking of creating a role for the latter in the sequel trilogy. Thoughts?

The only problem with Lee is that he would be quite old when the Sequels hit. Though his age didn't stop him OTL who knows if they do ITTL? And the count part should be kept, though the Dooku part might need changing...

If I can make a general suggestion: Make Cushing a Chancellor Valorum equivalent who steps down from his position over the debate over the clone army, then Palpatine/Sideous steps in. Lee still plays *Count Dooku.
 
Good choices thus far, though maybe you should have *Jango as his real son, so that you don't have to go through the trouble of finding an (almost) identical looking character for the Sequels. Furthermore: How about making *Jango the Han Solo of the Sequels, disgusted by the army created by his father and Sideous?

Deal. Love it, great thinking! He's gotta be a little bit ambiguous/anti-hero-esque too, though. So he's not TOO disgusted...

And Billy Dee as Mace Windi: Smooth!

I thought so, yo. Works every time!



Good idea.

Word.



Take Hoth for "Kamino", seeing how the additional cooling helps. "Geonosis" should be swamp-ish. And make "Naboo" Utapau, makes sense since that name was floating around for the princess' home world back then.

You must not have read my treatment of part one on page two of this thread... great minds...



The only problem with Lee is that he would be quite old when the Sequels hit. Though his age didn't stop him OTL who knows if they do ITTL? And the count part should be kept, though the Dooku part might need changing...

The Dooku name must change, but a Nazi-Vampire/Dark Jedi analog is required, therefore Count, as you suggested, still works.

If I can make a general suggestion: Make Cushing a Chancellor Valorum equivalent who steps down from his position over the debate over the clone army, then Palpatine/Sideous steps in. Lee still plays *Count Dooku.

I think that since Cushing was (to my knowledge) a bigger name actor and more sinister looking/acting (IMHO) that the Count/Grand Moff hybrid character should be played by him. Christopher as the Chancellor is genius, though... Maybe even a near-human... hmmm...
 
Also... I'm having serious trouble incorporating Han Solo's story arc into AOTC basic premise... However, OTL's TESB is pretty much a Han-wank and TTL's Episode II needs to be little different.

I'm open to ideas while I brainstorm.
 
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On to Ben Kenobi...

I had a (admittedly self-pandering... but what on this site isn't, right?) truly inspired idea for someone who can act, would be older than 28 years (McGregor's age as Kenobi in TPM) in 1977 but only slightly, and add a whole new demographic of fans to the Star Wars going public...

Compare:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/orYDLadn2pbg358ttlplS5Zto1_400.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NWgWncZ9zws/TcQ9jOZSNVI/AAAAAAAAAYk/HDO7dypSQM4/s1600/bowie.jpg

You're welcome.
Potentially awesome... but, sadly, completely infeasible. In 1976, at the time Star Wars was being filmed, David Bowie was sadly so drugged out of his mind he could barely function in day to day life, let alone act a major role in a motion picture. That was right in the middle of the period he was eating & drinking nothing but milk and red capsicums.

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky, we know Obi-Wan's a junkie...
:cool:


BELATED EDIT: I guess Lucas could always make some special effort to get Bowie to kick drugs before filming, or stop him before it gets too serious, but I don't know if it would've been worth the effort.
 
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@TheInfiniteApe: I just re-read your draft for Episode One and it is quite good but with a few noticable problems, namely:

- Pod Races would be incredibly hard to to, especially if they are supposed to be spectacular in any shape or form. Ever watched the original release of A New Hope and noticed how the speader of Luke is maybe 0.5 m of the ground (tops)? With the technology available a real "race" is night impossible, especially with the budget Lucas had for ANH

- if you want to preserve Hamill playing Annakin, you'll have problems. He was 24 after all, as already pointed out, and played a late teen in ANH and that was not that well... The character needs to be older than "a young boy" and he needs a slightly different background

- the Star Destroyer makes no sense: stations (sic!) are supposed to be immobile (which is somethat that always bothered me at the Death Star). Just make it a very huge fleet with a control ship which Annakin destroys. This control ship should be comparible to a Super Star Destroyer from the Original Trilogy.


As for Han in "our" ATOTC: Just bring him back for a minor roll, comparable to Dex. Maybe he now runs his own place (smuggler hideout/deparment store-hybrid) and he helps Obi Wan figure out the assassination attempt on Amidala (since he has the connections). He helps Obi Wan to investigate *Hoth, Han gets atttacked by Boba Fett, almost loses until Obi Wan comes in, which scares Boba away. Han and Annikin then go off after Boba to *Geonosis and get captured by the Count, while Amidala organizes a rescue mission led by Obi Wan, which also fails to some extent, but allows Han to escape, get on the Falcon and find Yoda, who then brings the Clone Army in.

And coming to think of it: Cushing being more positive (not the "Dracula" repuation Lee had) makes him the better Count, but Lee is a near-human chancellor *Valorum... Nice! His height will make him seem even more alien.
 
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:DIf we take EP I-III and take out only what would not be possible because of no CGI or because it would burst the budget:

EP I 1977 Star Wars (The Phantom menace titel added later after the film was so successful) .

Beginning: A scene similar to ANH. A Republic blockade runner chased by a Trade Federation destroyer. Insted of bording the Trade Fed destroyer just wants to make sure that nothing gets through the blockade of Naboo.

In the last seconds before the ship is destroyed Jedi Master Qui Gon and Jedi Knight Kenobi escape in a Jedi fighter.

They land on Naboo and discover that there is a resistance movement againt the Trade Federation blockade/occupation.

There they meet 16 year old Anakin Skywalker (hated the thing that they had to meet Anakin as a kid in TPM) who is allready a spectacular fighter pilot.

Together they search for Queen Amidala to bring her safely to the Galactic senate. Of cource the queen is hiding in the mountains
( budget:D)

They find her, break through the blockade and go to Coruscant - the whole pod race thing would not have been possible in 1977 and not really important for the story.

On Coruscant - resembling something like the city in blade runner-
the Galactic senate (after Amidala has confirmed all the horrible rumours the Senate has heared but had no proof) declare the Blockade/occuparion illegal and send a task force to end the blockade.

A battle similar to the death star battle of ANH.
Qui Gon is killed and Obi Wan takes Anakin as his apprentice.

End: A dark figure clad in dark robes smiling at the news that a powerfull Trade Federation blockade fortress had been destroyed by a single pilot. ( Anakin)

EP II Attack of the Clones

Beginning with a scene of Anakins training to become a Jedi. Then we see short flashes of his training and at the same time other Jedi besides Obi wan observing him and talking about dark times for the Republic.

The dark times are there because of Count Dooku. A poweful dictator from the planet Serreno who in the last 20 years has conquered thousands of star systems in the Outer Rim. Additionally he has made alliances with institutions like the trade federation, the techno union and many other powerful corporations.
The blockade/occupation of Naboo - while executed by the Trade Federation- was his doing. With this move he wanted to keep the Republic occupied while he built up his strenght to challange it directly.

The isolationists in the Republic had prevented the Republic to declare war on Dooku - until now. Dooku had become an unprecedented threat to the peace in the galaxy and the Republic was forced to go to war.

Unfortunately the republic soldiers were hopelessly outmatched by the legions of Dookus Clone troopers. (yeah Clone troopers on the evil side:D)
(sorry no room for battle droids)

After the scene with Anakins training and the talking the Jedi learn that Dooku is attacking the planet Geonosis - the gate from the Outer Rim to Republic space. There would be a Hoth like battle between the clones and the republic soldiers just like rebels vs empire in TESB.

The Republic is badly beaten in this battle. They know they have no chance against the clones. So all Jedi are sent out to seek and destroy the clone factories.

Anakin makes a stop on Naboo and it is revealed that he has a wife there - someone he met during the resistance - and she is pregnant

End: A military control room with a map of the Galaxy. Count Dooku is seen and he is very satisfied with the progres. A figure in black robes approaches him and Dooku admits that without the figure he would never have come so far. And again it is the same figure seen in Episode I smiling.

EP III

While having destroyed many of the smaller clone factories the attack on the main clone factory has failed. Dooku enraged at the near loss of this precious installation decided to attack Coruscant directly and end the war as soon as possible.

The Republic was loosing, badly. It was only a matter of time until Dookus clones would conquer Coruscant. With this the war would be as good as over. But just when it seemed that the Republic was beaten an enormous unknown fleet appeared out of nowhere and repelled Dookus invasion of Coruscant.

It was a Fleet comanded by the representative of Naboo, Senator Palpatine. The Naboo had begun construction of this secret fleet the day after the liberation from the Trade Federation to ensure that they would never again be enthralled by a foreign power.

The Battle of Coruscant was the turning point of the war.
Due to the interference of the unknow Naboo fleet Dooku had lost more ships and clones in this single confrontation than in the last 20 mayor battles combined.

His empire was crumbling. Realising defeat was inevitable Dooku made preparations for a final stand on Serreno.

It was then that the cloacked figure from EP I and EP II approached Dooku and killed him. Just seconds before Dooku died the cloacked figure revealed its true identitiy and Dooku realised that he had been a puppet his entire adult life.

The cloacked figure was no other than Senator Palpatine. It was not hard for the cloacked fígure to convince Dookus followers that the Jedi had assasinated their leader. After all Dooku had been killed by a lightsaber - that was obvious from the hole in his chest.

While Dooku was dead and his followers would loose the war very soon they would drag the Galaxy with them. A Galaxy in flames.

Just minutes after Dookus death a galaxy wide suicide order for all clones was given out. All clones should execute suicide attacks on anything that was associated with the Republic.

The damage was enourmous. The only way to stop the clones from suicide attacks was to break into the command center on Serreno and give the order to stand down.

But even the combined Republic/Naboo fleets would need days to battle through Dookus defences. So a plan was formulated - while the Republic/Naboo fleets would occupy the rest of Dookus forces all the Jedi left in the Galaxy would attack Serreno with small one or two person fighters.

With luck at least one of the remaining 600 Jedi would get through to the command center and give the stand down order for the clones.

There would be a short battle of Endor like space battle
(short because budget :D) and then a group of some 20 or 30 Jedi - all that was left- assaulting a command structure.

Strangely there would be no opposition. But once inside the main control room they would encounter Palpatine with hundreds of clone soldiers.

There Palpatine would reveal that he was a dark Jedi and a user of the dark side of the force and that all this had been his doing.

Anakin - having entered the Jedi training with 16 - would be pissed of and angry as hell and would want to attack Palpatine - the other Jedi would say - dont give in to your anger it leads to the dark side.

Just then would Palpatine show Anakin fake pictures from his pregnant wife beeing killed by clone soldiers. Now Anakin would be mad as hell - one Jedi would try to stop him and in his anger Anakin would chop him to pieces.

Thus Anakin has turned to the drak side and Darth Vader is born.
He blames the Jedi for his wifes death : Because of the stupid Jedi policies he had to keep his wife on Naboo where she was killed.

Anakin immediately battles with Obi wan while the rest of the Jedi try to get through the hundreds of clone troopers to shut down the suicide attack order.

Obi wan defeats Anakin, Anakin is severely injured and will have to wear the Darth Vader body armour to keep him alive.

The rest of the Jedi are slaughtered by the clone troopers and only the two luckiest - Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda manage to escape.

The last two Jedi in the Galaxy.

Palpatine gives the stand down order for the clones in the Galaxy.
To the galaxy he presents himself as the one who defeated Dooku and saved the galaxy.

He crowns himslef emperor. The galaxy applauded, after all he and his secret Fleet had saved the Republic from its enemies. The plan of the dark Jedi had worked perfectly.

Having learned that Anakin had a wife Yoda and Obi Wan travelled to Naboo where they meet young Padme. While not dead the young woman had been severely injured by a suicide clone attack.

She lives long enough to give birth to Baby Like and Lea but dies afterwards.

After his reconstruction Palpatine tells Vader that his wife is alive and well. Vader immediately travels to Naboo. The only thing he finds there is Padmes grave and the feint remains of Obi Wans and Yodas presence.

Convinced that they were the ones that killed her he was determined to make make them pay.

Obi Wan and Yoda hide and Luke and Lea are split up.

The Next three Star Wars movies wount come out until 1999-2005.

Their titels beeing A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi..............
 
AFAIK Lucas said he made the movies in the 4-5-6-1-2-3- order because he knew that the prequel explanations would not be as popular, so he wanted to "fun" stuff to come out first. I remember that as a rumor.
Lucas made that up later. He didn't come up with the idea of making it 4-5-6-1-2-3 until partway through making The Empire Strikes Back. In fact, the initial working title of TESB was "Star Wars II", and later "Star Wars Episode II". (Note that in the original screening of Ep IV, the sub-title "Episode IV: A New Hope" did not appear in the opening scroll -- that was added for the 1981 re-release & VHS copy.)

George Lucas's pattern of how he does things with Star Wars is to make stuff up as he goes along, then pretend he meant to do it that way all along.
 
Potentially awesome... but, sadly, completely infeasible. In 1976, at the time Star Wars was being filmed, David Bowie was sadly so drugged out of his mind he could barely function in day to day life, let alone act a major role in a motion picture. That was right in the middle of the period he was eating & drinking nothing but milk and red capsicums.

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky, we know Obi-Wan's a junkie...
:cool:


BELATED EDIT: I guess Lucas could always make some special effort to get Bowie to kick drugs before filming, or stop him before it gets too serious, but I don't know if it would've been worth the effort.

'76 was the beginning of Bowie's series of withdrawals from addiction and he filled his time with recording and non musical pursuits to assist in this. The beginning of 1976 was rough but by the end he was reduced to a social drug user (with fellow addict Iggy Pop in central Europe) and he would have been more inclined to reduce his habit with the impetus of playing such a "zen" character... Bowie really got into his roles, with the notable exception of the disjointed muppet-fuck which shall not be named here. (Hopefully this POD alters that monstrosity as well...)

Besides, Bowie could act brilliantly even while totally powdered out. Ever seen, "The Man Who Fell To Earth"?


@TheInfiniteApe: I just re-read your draft for Episode One and it is quite good but with a few noticable problems, namely:

- Pod Races would be incredibly hard to to, especially if they are supposed to be spectacular in any shape or form. Ever watched the original release of A New Hope and noticed how the speader of Luke is maybe 0.5 m of the ground (tops)? With the technology available a real "race" is night impossible, especially with the budget Lucas had for ANH

- if you want to preserve Hamill playing Annakin, you'll have problems. He was 24 after all, as already pointed out, and played a late teen in ANH and that was not that well... The character needs to be older than "a young boy" and he needs a slightly different background

- the Star Destroyer makes no sense: stations (sic!) are supposed to be immobile (which is somethat that always bothered me at the Death Star). Just make it a very huge fleet with a control ship which Annakin destroys. This control ship should be comparible to a Super Star Destroyer from the Original Trilogy.


As for Han in "our" ATOTC: Just bring him back for a minor roll, comparable to Dex. Maybe he now runs his own place (smuggler hideout/deparment store-hybrid) and he helps Obi Wan figure out the assassination attempt on Amidala (since he has the connections). He helps Obi Wan to investigate *Hoth, Han gets atttacked by Boba Fett, almost loses until Obi Wan comes in, which scares Boba away. Han and Annikin then go off after Boba to *Geonosis and get captured by the Count, while Amidala organizes a rescue mission led by Obi Wan, which also fails to some extent, but allows Han to escape, get on the Falcon and find Yoda, who then brings the Clone Army in.

And coming to think of it: Cushing being more positive (not the "Dracula" repuation Lee had) makes him the better Count, but Lee is a near-human chancellor *Valorum... Nice! His height will make him seem even more alien.

Good points all.

1. The Pod Race might be critically considered little more than time filler essentially until the Special Edition release in 1997 (Don't forget about those!) but racing is a Lucas passion and if anyone can find some way to make it work on a shoestring budget, it's GL. Don't expect anything remotely resembling OTL's Pod Race, but expect more than you are. The pods may have a little more of an American Graffiti feel about them, which could be rad. Of course, the wheels under the pods will be smudged out and the film speed will be noticeably increased to make it seem like they're blistering by, the race will be shorter than OTL's TPM but fear not, it won't stop the film dead for any length of time. Does this make you feel any better?

2. The choice of Hamill for Luke, besides keeping a similar look to the OT which is aesthetically important to me if to no one else, is also to shorten the length of plot time between the films. I don't want two separate actors to play Anakinn as it distracts from the cohesion of the thing. Also, if Hamill's car accident still happens on schedule, the difference in his look facially will as to his transformation towards Episode Three. Make sense?

3. Super Star Destroyer... damnit. Why didn't I think of that? Brilliant!

4. You have saved Harrison Ford's role in this thing. He wanted a smaller part anyway IIRC.

Maybe Han runs out on his debt to Jabba in spite of receiving his award at the end of the first film and Boba Fett has been sent to retrieve him... alive. After the assassination attempt, Ben Kenobi takes the evidence to Han at a nightclub on Alderaan and enlists Han in the pursuit to *Bespin, booking passage on the Falcon.

There they discover the Cloning Facility and the Republic Clone Army. Upon leaving, Boba Fett attempts to capture Han but Ben engages Fett in combat, allowing Chewie enough time to prepare the Falcon and Han enough time to attach a homing beacon to "the Slave", as he is now convinced that Fett is the assassin they have been tracking. Boba gathers his young son, *Jango and boards their ship to escape the trio.

They track the Fetts to *Dagobah where they discover the plans of the newly founded Confederate Empire under *Count Dooku. After transmitting their information to the Council, they are surrounded by Droid Troopers and taken prisoner. The Clone Army is sent to *Dagobah and Anakinn and Amidala (whose story in this film I'll iron out later) come to rescue them, only to be captured themselves and forced to battle monsters in an arena... without Han who has been frozen in carbonite.

Battle ensues, begun the Clone Wars have, Ben Kenobi, along with Anakinn and (instead of Yoda) Mace Windi (Billy Dee) battle the Count, Anakinn loses an arm etc. Boba Fett is beheaded but his son manages to escape with Han's frozen form (perhaps alone or with the Count).

(ALTERNATE: The Count takes Han's form and somehow forsakes the young Jango who is alone, fatherless and without his prize, as the battle rages around him. Chewbacca rescues the boy and takes him away on the Millennium Falcon, Han is killed off in Episode Three, and Chewbacca takes the child to Kashyyyk, planting the seeds for *Jango Fett to become the Han Solo of Episodes Four, Five, and Six. Thoughts?)

Anakinn and Amidala marry in secret, etc., etc. I'm gonna flesh it out more later...

And yeah, Cushing as the Count and Lee as the displaced Chancellor (who perhaps will have a recurring minor role as the initial leader of the Alliance To Restore The Republic). Couldn't be more perfect.

Good notes, cousin. Keep 'em coming!

:DIf we take EP I-III and take out only what would not be possible because of no CGI or because it would burst the budget:

EP I 1977 Star Wars (The Phantom menace titel added later after the film was so successful) .

Beginning: A scene similar to ANH. A Republic blockade runner chased by a Trade Federation destroyer. Insted of bording the Trade Fed destroyer just wants to make sure that nothing gets through the blockade of Naboo.

In the last seconds before the ship is destroyed Jedi Master Qui Gon and Jedi Knight Kenobi escape in a Jedi fighter.

They land on Naboo and discover that there is a resistance movement againt the Trade Federation blockade/occupation.

There they meet 16 year old Anakin Skywalker (hated the thing that they had to meet Anakin as a kid in TPM) who is allready a spectacular fighter pilot.

Together they search for Queen Amidala to bring her safely to the Galactic senate. Of cource the queen is hiding in the mountains
( budget:D)

They find her, break through the blockade and go to Coruscant - the whole pod race thing would not have been possible in 1977 and not really important for the story.

On Coruscant - resembling something like the city in blade runner-
the Galactic senate (after Amidala has confirmed all the horrible rumours the Senate has heared but had no proof) declare the Blockade/occuparion illegal and send a task force to end the blockade.

A battle similar to the death star battle of ANH.
Qui Gon is killed and Obi Wan takes Anakin as his apprentice.

End: A dark figure clad in dark robes smiling at the news that a powerfull Trade Federation blockade fortress had been destroyed by a single pilot. ( Anakin)

EP II Attack of the Clones

Beginning with a scene of Anakins training to become a Jedi. Then we see short flashes of his training and at the same time other Jedi besides Obi wan observing him and talking about dark times for the Republic.

The dark times are there because of Count Dooku. A poweful dictator from the planet Serreno who in the last 20 years has conquered thousands of star systems in the Outer Rim. Additionally he has made alliances with institutions like the trade federation, the techno union and many other powerful corporations.
The blockade/occupation of Naboo - while executed by the Trade Federation- was his doing. With this move he wanted to keep the Republic occupied while he built up his strenght to challange it directly.

The isolationists in the Republic had prevented the Republic to declare war on Dooku - until now. Dooku had become an unprecedented threat to the peace in the galaxy and the Republic was forced to go to war.

Unfortunately the republic soldiers were hopelessly outmatched by the legions of Dookus Clone troopers. (yeah Clone troopers on the evil side:D)
(sorry no room for battle droids)

After the scene with Anakins training and the talking the Jedi learn that Dooku is attacking the planet Geonosis - the gate from the Outer Rim to Republic space. There would be a Hoth like battle between the clones and the republic soldiers just like rebels vs empire in TESB.

The Republic is badly beaten in this battle. They know they have no chance against the clones. So all Jedi are sent out to seek and destroy the clone factories.

Anakin makes a stop on Naboo and it is revealed that he has a wife there - someone he met during the resistance - and she is pregnant

End: A military control room with a map of the Galaxy. Count Dooku is seen and he is very satisfied with the progres. A figure in black robes approaches him and Dooku admits that without the figure he would never have come so far. And again it is the same figure seen in Episode I smiling.

EP III

While having destroyed many of the smaller clone factories the attack on the main clone factory has failed. Dooku enraged at the near loss of this precious installation decided to attack Coruscant directly and end the war as soon as possible.

The Republic was loosing, badly. It was only a matter of time until Dookus clones would conquer Coruscant. With this the war would be as good as over. But just when it seemed that the Republic was beaten an enormous unknown fleet appeared out of nowhere and repelled Dookus invasion of Coruscant.

It was a Fleet comanded by the representative of Naboo, Senator Palpatine. The Naboo had begun construction of this secret fleet the day after the liberation from the Trade Federation to ensure that they would never again be enthralled by a foreign power.

The Battle of Coruscant was the turning point of the war.
Due to the interference of the unknow Naboo fleet Dooku had lost more ships and clones in this single confrontation than in the last 20 mayor battles combined.

His empire was crumbling. Realising defeat was inevitable Dooku made preparations for a final stand on Serreno.

It was then that the cloacked figure from EP I and EP II approached Dooku and killed him. Just seconds before Dooku died the cloacked figure revealed its true identitiy and Dooku realised that he had been a puppet his entire adult life.

The cloacked figure was no other than Senator Palpatine. It was not hard for the cloacked fígure to convince Dookus followers that the Jedi had assasinated their leader. After all Dooku had been killed by a lightsaber - that was obvious from the hole in his chest.

While Dooku was dead and his followers would loose the war very soon they would drag the Galaxy with them. A Galaxy in flames.

Just minutes after Dookus death a galaxy wide suicide order for all clones was given out. All clones should execute suicide attacks on anything that was associated with the Republic.

The damage was enourmous. The only way to stop the clones from suicide attacks was to break into the command center on Serreno and give the order to stand down.

But even the combined Republic/Naboo fleets would need days to battle through Dookus defences. So a plan was formulated - while the Republic/Naboo fleets would occupy the rest of Dookus forces all the Jedi left in the Galaxy would attack Serreno with small one or two person fighters.

With luck at least one of the remaining 600 Jedi would get through to the command center and give the stand down order for the clones.

There would be a short battle of Endor like space battle
(short because budget :D) and then a group of some 20 or 30 Jedi - all that was left- assaulting a command structure.

Strangely there would be no opposition. But once inside the main control room they would encounter Palpatine with hundreds of clone soldiers.

There Palpatine would reveal that he was a dark Jedi and a user of the dark side of the force and that all this had been his doing.

Anakin - having entered the Jedi training with 16 - would be pissed of and angry as hell and would want to attack Palpatine - the other Jedi would say - dont give in to your anger it leads to the dark side.

Just then would Palpatine show Anakin fake pictures from his pregnant wife beeing killed by clone soldiers. Now Anakin would be mad as hell - one Jedi would try to stop him and in his anger Anakin would chop him to pieces.

Thus Anakin has turned to the drak side and Darth Vader is born.
He blames the Jedi for his wifes death : Because of the stupid Jedi policies he had to keep his wife on Naboo where she was killed.

Anakin immediately battles with Obi wan while the rest of the Jedi try to get through the hundreds of clone troopers to shut down the suicide attack order.

Obi wan defeats Anakin, Anakin is severely injured and will have to wear the Darth Vader body armour to keep him alive.

The rest of the Jedi are slaughtered by the clone troopers and only the two luckiest - Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda manage to escape.

The last two Jedi in the Galaxy.

Palpatine gives the stand down order for the clones in the Galaxy.
To the galaxy he presents himself as the one who defeated Dooku and saved the galaxy.

He crowns himslef emperor. The galaxy applauded, after all he and his secret Fleet had saved the Republic from its enemies. The plan of the dark Jedi had worked perfectly.

Having learned that Anakin had a wife Yoda and Obi Wan travelled to Naboo where they meet young Padme. While not dead the young woman had been severely injured by a suicide clone attack.

She lives long enough to give birth to Baby Like and Lea but dies afterwards.

After his reconstruction Palpatine tells Vader that his wife is alive and well. Vader immediately travels to Naboo. The only thing he finds there is Padmes grave and the feint remains of Obi Wans and Yodas presence.

Convinced that they were the ones that killed her he was determined to make make them pay.

Obi Wan and Yoda hide and Luke and Lea are split up.

The Next three Star Wars movies wount come out until 1999-2005.

Their titels beeing A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi..............

Good stuff! You should check out my rough treatment on page two for *The Phantom Menace!

I think the titles will inevitably change, but otherwise you've got some great ideas. Keep up the notes. All of this will be better presented in the form of plot synopses on a cultural TL debuting soon.

Give me as much feedback as possible and check out the TL when it comes out!

Also, I'm contemplating the thought of David Lynch directing TTL's *The Revenge of the Sith. The slightly downer ending would make a little more sense this way. Or maybe Lynch does a rewrite of the script in preparation for his direction making only minor changes but it doesn't work out, leaving his ideas still a part of canon but the film still being directed by Marquand or even a return to Kershner. Bad idea?
 
Good stuff! You should check out my rough treatment on page two for *The Phantom Menace!

I think the titles will inevitably change, but otherwise you've got some great ideas. Keep up the notes. All of this will be better presented in the form of plot synopses on a cultural TL debuting soon.

Give me as much feedback as possible and check out the TL when it comes out!

Also, I'm contemplating the thought of David Lynch directing TTL's *The Revenge of the Sith. The slightly downer ending would make a little more sense this way. Or maybe Lynch does a rewrite of the script in preparation for his direction making only minor changes but it doesn't work out, leaving his ideas still a part of canon but the film still being directed by Marquand or even a return to Kershner. Bad idea?


Thanks! Took a while but I think that way EP 1-3 would be more logical than the mess made by Lucas.

For additional inspiration on Ep I to EP III you could watch these reviews - if you dont know them that is:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/
 
Thanks! Took a while but I think that way EP 1-3 would be more logical than the mess made by Lucas.

For additional inspiration on Ep I to EP III you could watch these reviews - if you dont know them that is:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

Thanks for the link!

A brilliant fucking idea just came to me...

The Clone Army isn't made up of Boba Fett clones, but rather clones of someone else. Boba Fett is still the person hired to assassinate the Queen and is on *Bespin hoping to meet with the Count about capturing Han and collecting on Jabba's bounty.

But Boba Fett is also a female and Han Solo's jilted ex-lover, making *Jango Fett their love child. Motherless at the hands of Mace Windi and with his father frozen in carbonite, Chewie takes the boy from the first battle of the Clone Wars on *Dagobah on the Falcon.

We don't know that the silent badass assassin is a woman until Han is being frozen and Fett removes her helmet:

"I loved you!"

"I know..."

Jango Fett is on Kashyyyk during the battle in *Revenge of the Sith, Han Solo is killed at the end (per Harrison Ford's wishes) and the orphaned *Jango Fett is raised on Kashyyyk by Chewbacca, before embarking on a series of his own rogue adventures like his parents (under the watchful eye of Chewie of course) and ultimately joining the Rebellion with Luke Skywalker (who later finds out he is the son of Anakinn Starkiller/Darth Vader) and falling in love with Princess Leia (played by Natalie Portman) over the course of the Sequel Trilogy.

In the sequel trilogy, he could be played by Johnny Depp?

I'm just spitballing here. It's late and I liked the thought.

Whaddya think?
 
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A brilliant fucking idea just came to me...

The Clone Army isn't made up of Boba Fett clones, but rather clones of someone else. Boba Fett is still the person hired to assassinate the Queen and is on *Bespin hoping to meet with the Count about capturing Han and collecting on Jabba's bounty.

But Boba Fett is also a female and Han Solo's jilted ex-lover, making *Jango Fett their love child. Motherless at the hands of Mace Windi and with his father frozen in carbonite, Chewie takes the boy from the first battle of the Clone Wars on *Dagobah on the Falcon.

We don't know that the silent badass assassin is a woman until Han is being frozen and Fett removes her helmet:

"I loved you!"

"I know..."

Jango Fett is on Kashyyyk during the battle in *Revenge of the Sith, Han Solo is killed at the end (per Harrison Ford's wishes) and the orphaned *Jango Fett is raised on Kashyyyk by Chewbacca, before embarking on a series of his own rogue adventures like his parents (under the watchful eye of Chewie of course) and ultimately joining the Rebellion with Luke Skywalker (who later finds out he is the son of Anakinn Starkiller/Darth Vader) and falling in love with Princess Leia (played by Natalie Portman) over the course of the Sequel Trilogy.

In the sequel trilogy, he could be played by Johnny Depp?

I'm just spitballing here. It's late and I liked the thought.

Whaddya think?

First of all: Natalie Portman as Leia -> WIN! In my opinion Portman is better with playing tough-ish female characters than Fisher, so it becomes a bit more believable. Furthermore Leia could be, just like Lucas originally intended, NOT be Luke's sister.

Depp as *Jango... For some reason I have Jack Sparrow wearing a jetpack now as a mental image... And it might work.

Female Boba: Brilliant! But she should have a name change (Boba sounds somewhat stupid, though it also is quite vague in terms of gender recognition, so it might still work) and she should be somewhat tomboyish/androgynous and overall a deadpan snarker character, until her emotional (and female) side is revealed when she unfreezes Han from Carbonite.

I also like the concept of the clone army being made up by different people, allows easier shooting at that point (budget!) and makes specialization a lot easier (clone an expert sniper -> get snipers; clone a brute artillerist -> get a brute artillerist; etc.)

And Lynch as a co-writer of Lucas for ROTS, that should work. But not in the directing seat, that would twist the movie. Kershner is always a better choice.

And regarding your responses of the last post: Yeah, the pod race makes a bit more sense now... The Annakin character still needs to be written to be at least 20 years old in my opinion (the car accident still fits, true) and your proposal for Han makes Ford proud :)
 
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First of all: Natalie Portman as Leia -> WIN! In my opinion Portman is better with playing tough-ish female characters than Fisher, so it becomes a bit more believable. Furthermore Leia could be, just like Lucas originally intended, NOT be Luke's sister.

Depp as *Jango... For some reason I have Jack Sparrow wearing a jetpack now as a mental image... And it might work.

Female Boba: Brilliant! But she should have a name change (Boba sounds somewhat stupid, though it also is quite vague in terms of gender recognition, so it might still work) and she should be somewhat tomboyish/androgynous and overall a deadpan snarker character, until her emotional (and female) side is revealed when she unfreezes Han from Carbonite.

I also like the concept of the clone army being made up by different people, allows easier shooting at that point (budget!) and makes specialization a lot easier (clone an expert sniper -> get snipers; clone a brute artillerist -> get a brute artillerist; etc.)

And Lynch as a co-writer of Lucas for ROTS, that should work. But not in the directing seat, that would twist the movie. Kershner is always a better choice.

And regarding your responses of the last post: Yeah, the pod race makes a bit more sense now... The Annakin character still needs to be written to be at least 20 years old in my opinion (the car accident still fits, true) and your proposal for Han makes Ford proud :)

Glad I'm pleasing you (and hopefully all the other AH SW fans out there) and thanks again for the expert feedback.

I'm gathering some info together to finish up an Episode Two synopses and begin on a rough draft for three.

Then comes the Sequel Trilogy. Taking requests/ideas/feedback!
 
Star Wars Episode II (1980) synopses:

Five years after the events of the previous film, the Republic is in trouble. The Trade Confederation and its leader, former Jedi Master Count Tarkin (now a Dark Lord of the Sith calling himself Darth Tyranus) has become the head organization of a new alliance of rebelling star systems, corporations, and pirate fleets called the Imperial Confederacy of Independent Systems (or the Imperial Confederacy for short) under the direction and rule of the mysterious and newly crowned Emperor Darth Sidious. The Galactic Senate is contemplating the commission of an enormous new federal military led by Jedi Generals to protect the sovereignty of the Republic.

Senator Amidala (now a Senator whose people voted to allow her to keep a royal title and a position in the Royal line of succession) has returned to Alderaan to vote against such an army, in spite of the fact that the Jedi are losing numbers as well as their once secure position as defenders of the Republic. Meanwhile, the Imperial Confederacy has been sending Assassin Drones throughout the galaxy to track and destroy the perpetrators of their disastrous defeat over the skies of Utapau. One such drone follows the Senator's transport as it descends upon the beautiful Alderaanian capitol city-in-the-clouds, Bespin.

An explosion rocks the platform as the drone self detonates, killing the Senator's decoy and prompting Chancellor Palpatine and Mace Windi to assign Ben Kenobi and Anakinn Starkiller to protect the former Queen. A second attempt on her life occurs shortly thereafter and Kenobi and Starkiller pursue the would-be assassin through the city planet of Alderaan, getting a glimpse of the helmeted figure as it fires a dart which wounds Starkiller, just before escaping into the night.

The Jedi are split up. Kenobi is to investigate the assassin while Starkiller is assigned to continue to protect the Senator as she returns to Utapau. Starkiller is falling deeper in love with the former Queen during this time and a day has not passed since the events of the first film that he hasn't thought of her. They spend much of the film on Utapau as the Jedi pursues their forbidden love and the Senator resists.

Kenobi, meanwhile, travels to Ord Mantell to confer with the one man who might know the origin of the saberdart, Han Solo. Solo and Chewbacca had payed their debt to Jabba but the bounty hadn't been lifted and they had spent the past few years running guns and smuggling under some level of Republic amnesty from their base beneath a seedy cantina they owned on Ord Mantell. Solo seemed uncharacteristically taken aback by the saberdart and was at first reluctant to reveal any information to the Jedi. He also reveals he had been contemplating running guns for the Imperial Confederacy at a significant profit. Kenobi promised Solo a reward for any information regarding the assassin and a larger sum for cooperating only with the Republic.

Solo reveals that the dart comes from Hoth, a frozen world known for the Hothans, a race of expert Cloners who live in a cloudy mountain top city high above the surface, but upon hearing the description of the assassin he names him as Boba Fett, a bounty hunter who once pursued him and had been associated with an old flame of his. Kenobi enlists Han and Chewie to take him aboard the Falcon to Hoth as they know the layout. Han balks but eventually agrees and they set off to the aerial fortress turned cloning facility.

Meanwhile, Anakinn senses something is wrong with his mother and he and Amidala, as well as the droids, travel to Tatooine to investigate. Here it is discovered once they meet her new husband, Owen Lars, that she has been taken prisoner by Sand People and Anakinn goes into the desert to rescue her. While in the desert, Anakinn meets the force ghost of Quigonn Jinn who warns him that there is much anger and darkness within him and he must enter a cave to defeat the darkness within. Anakinn has a vision that he must face a masked villain who, after Anakinn strikes him down in anger, turns out to be himself. Ignoring this spiritual warning, he ventures further into the desert. Upon finding his mother badly tortured and on the verge of death, Anakinn massacres the entire settlement of Sand People and remains in the ruins to meditate and train. When he returns to the Lars homestead he is dark and wearing the robes, scalps and talismans of the Raiders. Amidala looks afraid and says she doesn't know him anymore, but lets the matter go in respect for his loss. He kisses her as she makes repairs to the ship...

On Hoth, the trio of Han, Kenobi, and Chewbacca discover a massive Clone Army, called Stormtroopers commissioned by a mysterious Jedi whose name is not mentioned. It is revealed that the template for the Stormtrooper Pilots comes from the son of Boba Fett, a young boy by the name of *Jango and that the pair are currently in the fortress. The trio are confronted by the Fetts as they attempt to leave the fortress, as Han still has a bounty on his head and Boba Fett wants to collect. Battle ensues, with Chewie starting the Falcon and Kenobi sending the Fetts on the run, damaging the Falcon as they escape. Han manages to attack a homing beacon to the Slave I and it is discovered that they are heading to the other end of the planet.

On taun-tauns, the Trio travel to an underground settlement of insectoid ice creatures who are playing host to a conference of the leadership of the Imperial Confederacy. While hosts of Droid Troopers were being constructed in their underground foundries, their plan was to gain control of the Clone Army under false pretenses, making them an unstoppable force against the Republic. The Jedi have to take ownership of their army immediately and Ben Kenobi relays the message as they are overrun by Ugnaughts and *Geonosians.

Han is tortured by Count Tarkin and Boba Fett captures Anakinn, Amidala, and the droids as they have received the message and landed to rescue the trio. Han is then taken to be frozen in carbonite. Just as he is being led off he turns to Boba Fett and confronts the bounty hunter about their history together, calling him a traitor and "some friend." Remarking that it wasn't enough that Boba stole his only love from him, he had to turn him in to Jabba the Hutt as well. Boba replies that Han didn't know what he was talking about and turns to Count Tarkin to ensure that he won't be killed in the freezing process. He's no good to Boba dead.

Han is about to be lowered and Boba removes his helmet, revealing himself to be Han's former love. Han seems unsurprised and slightly hurt, but remains stoic in the face of his fate.

"Is the boy mine?" Han asks.

"Yes." Boba replies.

"You should have told me..."

"I love you."

"I know."

Han is frozen in carbonite and Boba Fett grasps their son's hand. As Han's form is being wheeled off and Chewbacca is taken to the gladiator ring, Tarkin tries to convert Kenobi to Sidious' army, claiming that Sidious is now in control of the Senate. He declines and is taken with the others to battle monsters in the ring.

As they fight with some success, Mace Windi arrives with the Stormtroopers and the Clone Wars begin. Anakinn and Ben follow Count Tarkin to a citadel where they duel, resulting in Anakinn losing an arm and Tarkin using force lightning on him. Master Windi appears, fresh from slaying Boba Fett, and beats Tarkin into a retreat to his solar sailor, which has been loaded with Han's frozen body. Tarkin delivers the body to a bounty hunter and returns to Alderaan.

*Jango has been reluctantly rescued by Chewbacca and is taken away with the Republic Army as a prisoner in Chewie's care. Back on Alderaan, Count Tarkin approaches Sidious to inform him that the war has begun as planned while in the Temple, the Jedi discuss the revelation that Sidious is in control of the Republic as Chancellor Palpatine launches the new Stormtrooper Army.

In a medical ship heading towards Naboo, Anakinn receives a robotic arm and he and Amidala secretly marry while Chewie and *Jango travel to Tatooine to rescue Han Solo from Jabba the Hutt.

Not too bad, huh?

End of Synopses.

Heralded as the greatest sequel ever made and surpassing ticket sales for the first film, it inspires Lucas to write the third installment and he also begins to outline a sequel trilogy to be made once the technology becomes available.

Outcome?
 
if TPM had been made in the 70s on a limited budget and the technology of the time, there probably wouldn't be battle droids or Jar Jar... they'd probably have stormtroopers and a Jar Jar that was human looking with assorted prosthetics tacked on to show that he really isn't... and the battle in space would probably be a lot more prominent and lengthy, something more like what was done in the first film...
 
That was an excellent synopsis Ape. When will be seeing Revenge of the Sith? I'm thinking of doing a TL where the Star Wars prequels are made first, but the second one is a failure. This in turn leads to the third installment not being made. Years later however, a new team decides to make a TV series out of Lucas's plans for the Original Trilogy*

*This idea is floating around in my head along with an idea for a succesful Jurassic Park, that Germany TL that I've suspended work on and about a dozen other projects I'll never have time for.
 
if TPM had been made in the 70s on a limited budget and the technology of the time, there probably wouldn't be battle droids or Jar Jar... they'd probably have stormtroopers and a Jar Jar that was human looking with assorted prosthetics tacked on to show that he really isn't... and the battle in space would probably be a lot more prominent and lengthy, something more like what was done in the first film...

Agreed on most counts. My synopses for a possible TPM on page two outlines this almost to a tee. No Jar Jar, and definitely a longer and more prominent space battle.

Battle droids are doable but they won't be CG, (duh) they'll be people in suits.

That was an excellent synopsis Ape. When will be seeing Revenge of the Sith? I'm thinking of doing a TL where the Star Wars prequels are made first, but the second one is a failure. This in turn leads to the third installment not being made. Years later however, a new team decides to make a TV series out of Lucas's plans for the Original Trilogy*

*This idea is floating around in my head along with an idea for a succesful Jurassic Park, that Germany TL that I've suspended work on and about a dozen other projects I'll never have time for.

RotS is coming, cousin, fear not!

Those are some nice ideas, looking forward to seeing them in writing. In this cultural TL I'm working on, there may even be a sequel series, making a total of nine Star Wars films. That, or I'm knocking around the idea of the OT coming out in the late eighties/early nineties and a final trilogy being released from '99 to '05.

Instead of the Clone Wars television series, I'm considering a Knights of the Old Republic CG animated series that's a lot more adult than CW. Lucas also makes good on his promise of a live action HBO-type television series showing what comes between RotS and ANH and cameos will abound, as well as much of the basic plot of Force Unleashed I and II, only, more fleshed out and believable. (And longer for Christ's sake. I simply must make it looonger...)

What's kinda funny is, all of this is an afterthought or a footnote of the actual TL itself, it's just something in which I thought there would be great interest.

Thanks for checking in, more to come!
 
Ape, this looks good.

I think the whole Han+Boba(female)=Jango is a great idea.

Twenty years later in Episode IV, the rebels run into a rogue under the name Han Solo, and thinking it might be their old friend returned from the dead, arrange a meeting only to be disappointed. Later, in a scene where Ben Kenobi is arguing with this new Solo, saying "You're not half the man you claim to be", the man comes back with, "Actually, I am. Half of him, that is."
 
Ape, this looks good.

I think the whole Han+Boba(female)=Jango is a great idea.

Twenty years later in Episode IV, the rebels run into a rogue under the name Han Solo, and thinking it might be their old friend returned from the dead, arrange a meeting only to be disappointed. Later, in a scene where Ben Kenobi is arguing with this new Solo, saying "You're not half the man you claim to be", the man comes back with, "Actually, I am. Half of him, that is."

Thanks!

...and I love that idea. I actually am beginning to wish Star Wars had been done this way, and I haven't even gotten to IV, V, and VI yet...

EDIT: Third episode coming soon!
 
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