WI Star Trek gets Five Seasons

Hyperion

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Garrison said:
There was also the concern about one of the themes of that movie being true to life, that is the main cast were ageing and couldn't go on forever. There was also the fact that a TV series offered a regular flow of income over the once every couple of years influx the movies generated.
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Thats one thing about ST: TMP and The Voyage Home that I've always wondered about. Even though the Oscar nominations each move got where either for their musical scores, or for technical aspects(no best actors or anything) how might Hollywood insiders and others outside the studio have viewed or respect Star Trek if someone, somewhere, could look at either movie and say, "I worked on that movie, and now I have an Oscar because of it".
 
Emperor Norton I

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There could arise still people who love Star Trek much like they do today, who still remember it, and I do believe it'd effect culture about as much as it ever did. And, looking to its contemporaries, you could well still see people cosplaying and going to conventions (look to Planet of the Apes and Space 1999 and Star Wars all that; people dressed up like that and made stuff and all and went to Scifi Conventions). But I think the people who get super into it would be further muted and lesser than they are in the OTL, and there may not be something like a Star Trek convention; Star Trek as part of Sci Fi conventions, yes, but not conventions just for Star Trek.
 

Hyperion

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SergeantHeretic said:
Ehhh, I tought STTMP was just a steroided up remake of "The changling." I did not see it until it hit video anyway as I was like ten when it came out.
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The overall plot itself isn't all that great. That being said, when I first watched it, and even later on, I partially watched it just for the visual effects and the musical score more than anything.

That being said, if you find a copy of the novelization at a yard sale or second hand bookstore, I'd recommend picking it up. It goes a bit more in depth than the movie, and actually has whole chapters of plot and material that where not in the film.
 

John Fredrick Parker

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Emperor Norton I said:
There could arise still people who love Star Trek much like they do today, who still remember it, and I do believe it'd effect culture about as much as it ever did. And, looking to its contemporaries, you could well still see people cosplaying and going to conventions (look to Planet of the Apes and Space 1999 and Star Wars all that; people dressed up like that and made stuff and all and went to Scifi Conventions). But I think the people who get super into it would be further muted and lesser than they are in the OTL, and there may not be something like a Star Trek convention; Star Trek as part of Sci Fi conventions, yes, but not conventions just for Star Trek.
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This seems to be the right balance...
 

wietze

5 seasons of ST:OS

Shatner probably would have tried to run for president in the 70/80s, and by now would have tried have himself declared god lol :p

one could only fear what 5 seasons would have done with his (already massive) ego LOL
 
Glen

Glen

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I think that the actors would stick out the full five. I think STTAS shows there are still stories to tell. In fact I think several of the third season episodes could have been better with slightly better budgets and sans the looming threat of cancellation. Shatner bigger ego but even more typecast. I agree that Phase Ii much less likely to be considered but that a movie will be considered nonetheless. Fandom for Trek is still going to arise - less angry but no less avid. I fear STTMP still will be lacking but I think it makes enough to warrant sequel - it willprobably be the success or failure of that sequel that determines the fate of the franchise. Khan exceeded expectations. If the sequel instead was worse than TMP might end the era. If as successful then likely see the same sort of development as OTL.
 
Emperor Norton I

Emperor Norton I

Here's another thing: Shatner went through a divorce around this time, and the judge ordered him to pay out to his wife based on future earnings. He was, after all, Captain Kirk. So when those future Star Trek earnings didn't come through due to cancellation, he was screwed, forced to take all these crappy roles, and to live in his truck.

wietze said:
Shatner probably would have tried to run for president in the 70/80s, and by now would have tried have himself declared god lol :p
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William Shatner is Canadian. So he can't run for President.

God, however, is another matter.

Decatur said:
They called that show Enterprise.
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WE DO NOT SPEAK THAT NAME!!!!!!!
 

Hyperion

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Emperor Norton I said:
WE DO NOT SPEAK THAT NAME!!!!!!!
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ColeMercury

Garrison said:
As ColeMercury suggests there probably will be a ST: TMP but I suspect probably no 'Phase II' TV plan given the relatively more recent wrap up of TOS.
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No I didn't, I was just correcting the "Star Wars caused Star Trek TMP to be made" misconception. That isn't true at all.

If Star Trek did go for five years, there probably won't be a movie. Or at least it'll come about in a radically different way.

(Probably no animated series either.)

John Fredrick Parker said:
Seems to be a rough consensus here; let's see if we can't tie down some dates. Assuming it takes Star Wars (or some version thereof) to get the studios excited about a ST movie, and that they're going with a prequel or a "reboot", then the next "phase" of Star Trek would come to be a part of the 1980's pop culture (the way original ST was part of the 1960's).
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Goddamnit it won't! It doesn't! It was the EXACT OPPOSITE! I feel like I'm talking to a wall here!

Hyperion said:
Another thing that might be interesting if TOS does somewhat better ratings wise than OTL, we might get at least a season of Assignment Earth.
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The thing about Assignment: Earth is that it was rejected in the first place because the "spy show" boom was winding down, and given its science-fiction aspects it would've been more expensive than most. In any case, had it gone to air it would've had nothing at all to do with Star Trek: it was only a backdoor pilot, not meant to be a proper extension to the original show. An analogy: it was more like Mork & Mindy was to Happy Days than, say, Joanie Loves Chachi.
 
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Glen

Glen

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Okay, IF we assume that ST:TMP filming and release was mostly driven by the twin success of Star Wars and Close Encounters, then we can see it at about the same time as OTL. And Paramount execs are probably going to have the same reaction to it as in OTL, and seek someone else to write a sequel. While this is perturbable, there is no reason to believe the two extra seasons in and of themselves would lead to different personnel and decisions at Paramount Pictures, so we could see a very similar development of Star Trek II.
 

SergeantHeretic

Hyperion said:
The overall plot itself isn't all that great. That being said, when I first watched it, and even later on, I partially watched it just for the visual effects and the musical score more than anything.

That being said, if you find a copy of the novelization at a yard sale or second hand bookstore, I'd recommend picking it up. It goes a bit more in depth than the movie, and actually has whole chapters of plot and material that where not in the film.
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I shall think about checking that out.
 
unclepatrick

unclepatrick

WI Star Trek gets Five Season

How could Star Trek survived for Two more season?
One Roddenberry decides during the Second season that He needs Gene L Coon, and Does not let him leave to go to Universal. (Where in the orginal timeline, he produces It takes a Thief). Bir
Coon then serve as producer for season 3 and raises the level of Stories for that season up a dagree. No Fred Freiberger (If we are changing History then Have Fred Remain Producer for Wild Wild West more than the 13 episodes he did in the OTL)
Two We need something to give Star Trek a rating boom. The sale of the James Bond Books got a jump when JFK mention in a interview that he like the novel Goldfiger.
In 1968 NASA had lots of worries over the Apollo 8 Mission because there was no backup is something goes wrong. What is we have a mini Apollo 13 disaster, one of the fuel cells exploses as Apollo 8 is orbiting the moon. Frank Borman and crew make it back, but it a close call. In a interview after the return to earth, Borman jokes that he kept asking himself what would Captain Kirk do?
People who nevered check out Star Trek , try it and like it.
third, The problem with the network, This is the Hardest to solve. NBC chose to put the show third season on Friday night at 10:00 eastern time zone, Some we have to get more support from the network and have them place the show on a better night.
this is the one problem that I have no answer to.
These are my thoughts on how to get two more season for Star trek.
 
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