WI: Stanislas I Leszczyński Has A Son

The ill-fated king of Poland and later duke of Lorraine only had two daughters, Anna (b.1699, d.1717), and Maria (b.1703), who became queen of France, that I'm aware of. Maria seems to have either been deeply grieved by Anna's death or resentful of Anna being their dad's favourite child, since her husband, Louis XV, was surprised to find out that she had had a sister after being married for so many years.

Now, what if Stanislas had had a son? Born between 1698 (when his parents married) and 1703 (since they had no children after Maria, even though Mrs. Leszczyński was only 23, seems to indicate that there may have been a problem in that department - especially considering Maria's bountiful issue). Also, I can't seem to find a mention of even bastard issue for Stanczyk Sr, so the problem might have been either side.

I would imagine that this boy, let's call him Stanczyk Jr, would make things like Leszczyński getting the duchy of Lorraine as a lifetime grant or maybe him being deposed as king of Poland to start with, rather more complicated than OTL. And if Stanislas doesn't wind up deposed, what does this mean for the PLC's future with no PU with Saxony? Would this be the case (not getting deposed)?
 
Stanislaw Leszczynski is not going to stay King of Poland without Charles XII's backing, not if he takes the throne the OTL way. Being imposed by the Swedes makes him both resented in Poland and detested by Russia (Peter did offer the Polish throne to other candidates, but Augustus beat him to the punch by returning. Stanislaw was not among Peter's candidates). Son or not, he'll still be illegitimate.

Maybe the son could make a difference in his second bid for the throne, but I doubt it--by that point, the Polish state had decayed to the point where the votes of foreign soldiers counted more.
 
Stanisław Leszczyński not being deposed require Swedish victory in Great Northern War IMHO.
Stanislaw Leszczynski is not going to stay King of Poland without Charles XII's backing, not if he takes the throne the OTL way. Being imposed by the Swedes makes him both resented in Poland and detested by Russia (Peter did offer the Polish throne to other candidates, but Augustus beat him to the punch by returning. Stanislaw was not among Peter's candidates). Son or not, he'll still be illegitimate.

Maybe the son could make a difference in his second bid for the throne, but I doubt it--by that point, the Polish state had decayed to the point where the votes of foreign soldiers counted more.

Okay, so little to no chance of Stanczyk Sr hanging around unless Carl XII can pull a rabbit out of his trousers and win the war - which might be possible earlier rather than later (he'd already pushed Denmark and Saxony out leaving just Russia to deal with early on, but then Russia proved a bigger thing than he could handle). Either way, Stanczyk's reign is going to be seen as being at the points of Swedish bayonets.

How far had the rot set in by the 1730s? Particularly if Stanczyk Jr's taken advantage of his sister's marriage to the French king to contract a decent marriage of his own (I'd suggest one of Jakub Sobieski's daughters but they were all married or dead by the 1730s), and secured another alliance (IDK with who, though) that could be equally useful in counteracting Austro-Russian weight in the PLC.
 
I think having a brother will hurt Maria’s chance to be choised as Queen of France...

How so? AIUI, her "suitability" was because she wouldn't be pulling France into any messy foreign alliances. If her dad's still deposed, I can't really see the existence of a brother affecting things in that light. When they chose her as queen of France no one thought that when Augustus II died there would be a war such as they was. Maybe a flutter of diplomatic papers in a cabinet war, but not necessarily something along the lines of OTLs War of the Polish Succession.
 
A brother can affect that, because that will think the French owe him support for the next Polish’s election and France will need to help to found him a suitable bride and will need to support he and his descendants... At that point Mariana Victoria of Spain is better on every aspect but age...
 
A brother can affect that, because that will think the French owe him support for the next Polish’s election and France will need to help to found him a suitable bride and will need to support he and his descendants... At that point Mariana Victoria of Spain is better on every aspect but age...

Fair enough. Although I would imagine the French would try to find a way around this? His dad living long enough to be restored to Poland wasn't a given (Stanczyk Snr is the longest lived Polish king, even if he isn't the longest reigning). And if he's spent most of his life in exile, the Poles might view him as being as foreign as the duque de Beja or the comte de Charolais (whom the French supported in the Polish elections anyway, trying to snag a Polish heiress for him to wed). Besides, wasn't Stanislas in Zweibrucken when his daughter became queen of France? ISTR he ran into her rooms, shouting "fall on your knees and give thanks to God". Marie's response was "why? are you going back to Poland as king?" "No, you are going to France as queen".

Depending on when the brother's born or on his personality the French might support him as much as what they supported a certain Bonnie Prince. But the fact that they supported Charolais OTL and tried to prime him to strengthen their chances in Poland with the royal elections after the death of Augustus seems to say that they'd be just as likely to still accept Marie. At the time of the marriage, she has no foreign connections, and any foreign connections for her brother will be at French discretion. Although the Poles may reject Stanczyk Jnr for that reason - they don't want PLC being the Louis XV/Fleury puppet-show.
 
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