WI - Stan Lee packs it in?

Legend has it that The Fantastic Four, Marvel's benchmark in it's revolutionary comics line, spawned from a golf game between publisher Martin Goodman and DC's Jack Liebowitz (or Irwin Donenfeld, history wears out as time progresses..). After listening to Liebowitz/Donenfeld brag about the recent success of the new Justice League of America title, Goodman tasked editor Stanley Martin Lieber (pen name "Stan Lee") to create his own 'team of superheros' series.

And as the legend goes, Lieber went home to his wife and said he was going to quit, the stresses of competition and a dying industry weighing heavy on his shoulders. But his wife Joan convinced him otherwise, telling him to do it "how he wanted to". And so it was Stan Lee conceived The Fantastic Four.

But what if Lieber didn't listen to his wife? What if he just couldn't be bothered and quit the next day like he wanted? What would happen to a comics world without Marvel's first family (and subsequent other revolutionary characters), a comics world with DC as the undisputed kingpin?
 
Lee did not work in a vacuum.
Kirby still existed, as well as a dozen other silver age monarchs.
It still would have happened, maybe a tarnished silver age.
Comics were changing, like movies were changing.
We would have had varient characters, maybe not quite so sucessful.

On the same hand, Jim Shooter was a Lee favorite. No Lee = no Shooter = better world.
 

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On the same hand, Jim Shooter was a Lee favorite. No Lee = no Shooter = better world.
Not necessarily.

He might have followed his dad into the steel business, imposed his ideas on work-scheduling there, and gotten somebody really hurt!
 
Vahktang said:
Lee did not work in a vacuum. ....We would have had varient characters, maybe not quite so sucessful.
True. However, without FF, does Marvel go under? If Stan is to be believed, the only reason he got away with it was because the company had little to lose. If he quits, does the proposed team book produce enough sales to keep the company afloat? Or sink into obscurity?

I can picture something nearer Avengers, instead, or maybe X-Men (given the "monster mania" at the time): Angel, a furry Beast, *Frog Man, *The Lizard, & the Hulk?

Vahktang said:
Jim Shooter was a Lee favorite. No Lee = no Shooter = better world.
:cool::cool: Agreed.
 
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