WI: Soviets continue with heavy tanks?

"the more you use, the less you lose"
OMG this works so well in RTS games, since the damages gets spread more evenly across your units (which can then often be repaired) when you have more. :)

But if the Soviets did have a lot of tanks and fast divisions, they would probably be able to surround and defeat NATO formations, especially (perhaps only) when the USSR airforces are still denying air superiority and thus preventing a semi-Gulf War situation.
 

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I say they did have serious intentions. I apologize for mis-stating your position.

OK, if they had, why didn't they do that?

But as I've already pointed out, they had the buffer states to fight on, and a defensive strategy would have been much cheaper than the offensive one they actually had.

Better is to destroy NATO countries by fighting there, and you can allwasy retreat into WP satellite countries if something goes bad.

If you think submarines are a defensive weapon and nuke boats are automatically better than diesel ones I really don't think you have the training to understand the military situation. I'm happy to help educate you if you're interested. If you're not, I'm happy to drop this discussion.

I said defansive in a meaning that you can't make a invasion with Navy of submarines.
OFC that weapons aren't just offensive/defensive, but aircraft carriers and LPH are mostly offensive weapons.
USSR didn't had many of that.

And SSN is in 90% of situations better than conventional.
Only just defense of territorial waters, ports, and shallow sea is better to do with SSKs.
For all other purposes, SSN are better.
And USSR is way too big to rely on SSK only.

Umm... depends on the year, but for most of the 1980's, for example, it most certainly wasn't. In fact, with 20/20 hindsight quite a lot of people believe that for most of the 1980's the WP wouldn't have gotten very far if they had invaded. A more powerful army would have made them more capable of winning a conventional war in Europe. There's also "the more you use, the less you lose" maxim.

I was thinking more about 50s and 60s.

But, IMO, even in 80s they could defeat NATO forces in W. Europe.
With more casualties and in more time, yes. But defeat- yes.



But, let drop this discussion because it's a OFF TOPIC.
 
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