WI: Someone actually wins the Thirty years war

It make sence they wanted to break the Habsburgs encirclement of France wich was considered and rightly so as a mortal threat.

Ironically the Habsburgs by marrying the Trastamaras started this encirclement, because France was considered and rightly so a mortal threat.
 
Yes, the Protestants sure won that war. They won it so much that Hungary, Bohemia, and the south of Germany became Catholic. And this stunning victory so weakened the Habsburgs that the Emperor followed it up with the most supine display of weakness ever--liberating the rest of Hungary from the Turk.

I'll keep it short--the 19th century spin on German history was largely written to flatter... a certain state, and suggest its historical rise was an inevitable triumph. It thus tends to simplify matters.

I'm guessing your referring to Prussia (Brandenburg at the time of the 30 year's war). I'm not saying Austria was permanently weakened but you can't deny that for the most part Gernmay was screwed over in the Peace of Westphalia. The Holy Roman Empire had essentially ended, the only thing that survived was titles of the Emperor, Prince-Electors and other rulers. Could a Austrian Victory be enough to force through much needed reforms? Maybe, maybe not but a defeat certainly put one of the final nails in the HRE's coffin.
 
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