WI: semi-unified Netherlands without Burgundy in the 14th century?

How would European politics in the late 14th and 15th century be if the Burgundians never aquire Brabant, Holland and Hainault because these principalities enter a personal Union under the Avesnes dynasty?

Wenceslaus I Duke of Luxembourg could marry someone else because his original wife, the duchess of Brabant, is already married to the count of Holland. If he had children would the house of Luxembourg live longer and how does this change imperial politics?

Without Brabant and Holland and Hainault the Burgundians are weaker than OTL how does this affect the late stages of the hundred years war?

What happens to the Wittlesbach if they never got Holland? Would they partition Bavaria differently?

What happens to the Habsburgs who won't get the Netherlands ITL?


I wrote a TL about this a while back but I wrote myself in a corner and wanted to reboot it. I don't want to end like the last time so I made this thread.
 
Is this scenario plausible?

- William IV of Holland survived the Battle of Warns and managed to have a son with his wife, Joanna of Brabant (let's call the son "William").

- Louis II of Flanders and his wife, Margaret of Brabant, still had their daughter, OTL Margaret III of Flanders.

- John III of Brabant's sons still ended up dying before their father.

- To avoid a succession war, John III of Brabant chose his grandson (young William from Holland) and his granddaughter (OTL Margaret III of Flanders) as joint heirs and arranged marriage between them.
 
Interesting, naturally I'd prefer a Netherlands united by the house of Brabant (Leuven);), but interesting nonetheless. :)

John can only do so much by himself, it would be a marriage treaty between the duke of Lothier, Brabant & Limburg and the counts of Flanders and Holland.

Possible, but the houses of Avesnes (Hainaut, Holland and Zeeland)* and Dampierre (Flanders, Nevers, Rethel, Artois and Franche Comté)* originally weren't on the best of terms.
They started out fighting over the inheritance of Flanders and Hainaut, ultimately it was settled by a judgement of the king of France.

OTOH a Philip the Bold or Philip of Rouvres might be seen as a better match, than TTL William.

(*= territories they would control by time of the proposed marriage)
 
Is this scenario plausible?

- William IV of Holland survived the Battle of Warns and managed to have a son with his wife, Joanna of Brabant (let's call the son "William").

Even with a victorious Battle of Warns can he hold Friesland?
 
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