WI - Second Italo-Turkish War?

Over what? Italy has all the Muslims it wants in Libya and the Horn of Africa. Considering how the Italians fared against the Greeks in 1940-41, I don't think they'd do any better against the Turks in Anatolia.
 
Over what? Italy has all the Muslims it wants in Libya and the Horn of Africa. Considering how the Italians fared against the Greeks in 1940-41, I don't think they'd do any better against the Turks in Anatolia.
How about if the Italians decide to abandon invading Ethiopia for Turkey?
 
How about if the Italians decide to abandon invading Ethiopia for Turkey?

No reason about it; invading Ethiopia for Benny was a way to show how his regime was superior to the liberal one, Turkey don't have this appeal and will stir much more diplomatic problem than Ethiopia.
 
No reason about it; invading Ethiopia for Benny was a way to show how his regime was superior to the liberal one, Turkey don't have this appeal and will stir much more diplomatic problem than Ethiopia.
Good point - is there anyway there could be an Italian invasion of Turkey?
 
Good point - is there anyway there could be an Italian invasion of Turkey?

Maybe if she goes communist or as a counterinvasion against soviet aggression, but in both this case it will be done with at least the tacit (and probably not so tacit) support of ANglo-French (and AMericans)
 

TruthfulPanda

Gone Fishin'
Maybe during the Turko-Greek War, to enforce the Italian sphere of influence under Sevres:
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TruthfulPanda

Gone Fishin'
That's up in the air - depends on:
- how many troops Italy sends
- how well/badly are these troops led
- how badly do Italy and Greece sabotage each other's efforts ...

So, maybe yes, maybe no ...
 
Good point - is there anyway there could be an Italian invasion of Turkey?

Actually there is a possible window in 1925-26 when the trouble between Britain and Turkey over Mosul peaked. Mussolini was leaving hints at least to the Greeks who had their own troubles with Ankara at the time that in case of war he would be supporting Greece and Turkey. Then Mosul was resolved and within a year he was trying to get Turkey into the Italian orbit and helping rebuild the Turkish navy.

Which is about on par for the stability of the man's foreign policy. For a similar example in 1923-24 he altered his foreign policy towards Greece first to support in Laussane (to the extend of hinting military support if the war restart ), to bombarding and occupying Corfu a few months later, to being the first to recognize the 2nd Republic just a few more months later.
 
Actually there is a possible window in 1925-26 when the trouble between Britain and Turkey over Mosul peaked. Mussolini was leaving hints at least to the Greeks who had their own troubles with Ankara at the time that in case of war he would be supporting Greece and Turkey. Then Mosul was resolved and within a year he was trying to get Turkey into the Italian orbit and helping rebuild the Turkish navy.

Which is about on par for the stability of the man's foreign policy. For a similar example in 1923-24 he altered his foreign policy towards Greece first to support in Laussane (to the extend of hinting military support if the war restart ), to bombarding and occupying Corfu a few months later, to being the first to recognize the 2nd Republic just a few more months later.
How could this turn out?
 
How could this turn out?

Pretty certain the British can fight off an invasion of Iraq and cause a mess in Kurdistan on top of it, that's the period of the Kurdish revolts after all. A Greek attack in Thrace is probably doable particularly with British naval support, the Greeks can probably concentrate well over 300,000 men there much faster than Turkey in case of mobilization and the straits are demilitarized leaving open the possibility to cut off European Turkey completely. (pretty certain the Turks had contingency plans to mine the straits and move troops there in case of war but they are still playing with a bad starting hand which is why Montreoux happened)

But for the Italians themselves... if Benny had hopes of invading Anatolia, the obvious targets (frex Smyrna and Antalya) will all have significant Turkish forces anticipating just that and I don't see the Italians having the logistical capacity for sufficiently large landings, in Libya in 1911 their initial landing had consisted of about 34,000 and the planned invasion of Malta in WW2 70,000, which should be containable. Maybe Mugla province opposite Rhodes, given the terrain communications to the interior would be problematic. But by the same token communications to the interior would be problematic so an Italian attack won't be going anywhere from there.
 
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