WI - Russian Military Dictatorship before WW1?

The fate of the Ottomans; somebody tries to expand against the Turks at the other side's expense (Maybe the Italo-Turkish War?) the other side steps in to defend Constantinople in order to help get them in their commerical-political sphere.
How much further could the Italo-Turkish War escalate? Also, would some kind of Russo-Turkish War spark ww1?
 
Alright then, how could we get the Italo-Turkish War to expand?

Have Britain intervene on Turkey's behalf, or insist on mediation/Italian Withdrawl following a failed attempt to seize Triopolitiania. Italy calls on its Austrian and German allies when Britain declares war on them as a result, and the Triple Alliance complies. France joins in at some point and boom; a world war.
 
Actually, the Russian regeime had some pretty solid reasons for getting involved; many of which were actually the same reasons why Austria pushed the issue so hard. Both regeimes were at a critical point in their reform/development where civil unrest and outside pressures were growing concerns, and on which they depended on the "shield of prestige" to dissuade enough potential dissidents/opponents from actively trying to undermine them so as not to get overwhelmed. Prior to the July Crisis, for instance, 1914 was one of the most strike-heavy years Russia had faced thusfar, and the Russian regeime was very concerned that if it diden't put up the apperance of being willing to stand up for its interests (IE defending a nation they had cultrial-diplomatic obligations to protect), that would send the message that they weren't confident in their ability to project force, which would only serve to encourage greater efforts by domestic opponents to push for reforms/undermine the autocracy

I would argue even before the event that nothing justified the Russians risking a major war with Germany. Internal problems would be an additional reason to stay out.

Getting back to the topic, a military government in Russia would lack much of the legitimacy of the tzar and would see things more clearly as they have clearly *no divine right to rule* as such they would be less willing to risk a war.
 
I would argue even before the event that nothing justified the Russians risking a major war with Germany. Internal problems would be an additional reason to stay out.

Getting back to the topic, a military government in Russia would lack much of the legitimacy of the tzar and would see things more clearly as they have clearly *no divine right to rule* as such they would be less willing to risk a war.

Reputation and perception are everything. Yes, in hindsight we can tell it was a bad idea (Its the same thing with Barbarossa), but consider what the Russian government was looking at: growing civil unrest, the need to impliment measures that would produce major backlash in peacetime in order to solve Russia's perceived social and underdevelopment problems (For example, the rampant alcohol consumption, which contributed to the perpetuation of greatly non-monotized economy in many rural areas of Russia as well as vagrancy/hooliganry and health concerns), and then pops up a situation that could result in major diplomatic humiliation if the Russian government appears to be weak. Then they'd be looking back at 1905, when the Russian government proved unable to defend its interest in East Asia, and created a crack in the State's "cred" of overwhelming power that convinced enough domestic dissidents that now was the best time to make their move. Add that to the fact that the biggest supporters of the State (The aristocracy, church, ect.) were also the most Slavophilic elements who'd be most disappointed by the failure to act, and one can see why the Czarist regieme felt that (what everybody expected) to be a quick war to crush the Austrians was better than risking the current flare-up in labor and peasent militancy from turning into a real revolutionary threat. Was it the best decision? No, but one can see a solid logic behind it.

Now, I agree that a military government woulden't take that route, since you're dealing with a regeime that's far more domestically focused and dosen't have the same expectation of projecting power to defend the Balkan Slavs as the Czars who had pounded on that drum quite a few times. Indeed, I specifically said so in an earlier post.
 
Have Britain intervene on Turkey's behalf, or insist on mediation/Italian Withdrawl following a failed attempt to seize Triopolitiania. Italy calls on its Austrian and German allies when Britain declares war on them as a result, and the Triple Alliance complies. France joins in at some point and boom; a world war.
How different would be this World War be?
 
How different would be this World War be?

If put up as suggested? Well, the Triple Alliance would be in a better position than the CP was IOTL (Though, how much depends on just how deep into the Tripolitanian tar baby Italy is; IE how much military resources she's lost in the failed offensive and how many are going to get stranded when the Franco-British navy steps to isolate them). Most likely, in the opening months the Italians get their teeth kicked in as their economy screeches to a halt due to the cut-off of imports from the West, their navy is chased from the main Med. (The Adriatic would still be safe), and their army, caught off-formation to defend, is hammered on its Western border by the French. Exactly what happens next would depend alot on French and German decision-making as well as well as the decisions of the Balkan League (This is pre-Balkan Wars). Given the alliance has ambitions in both the Ottoman and Austrian directions, they could turn their armies either way (Serbia and Greece seem far more liable to lean towards the Entente, while I imagine Bulgaria will want to attack the Turks... you might see a rift form in the League. Romania, however, can likely be convinced to jump in on the Entente side easy enough, with the Russian regeime being more than willing to sell them arms as well as being supplied via the Dardanelles). If the French from early successes determine that they can knock Italy out of the war quickly, they could very well adopt a more defensive stance against the Germans, while Germany is going to have to decide if they're going to push directly out of E-L or try to flank through Belgium.
 
If put up as suggested? Well, the Triple Alliance would be in a better position than the CP was IOTL (Though, how much depends on just how deep into the Tripolitanian tar baby Italy is; IE how much military resources she's lost in the failed offensive and how many are going to get stranded when the Franco-British navy steps to isolate them). Most likely, in the opening months the Italians get their teeth kicked in as their economy screeches to a halt due to the cut-off of imports from the West, their navy is chased from the main Med. (The Adriatic would still be safe), and their army, caught off-formation to defend, is hammered on its Western border by the French. Exactly what happens next would depend alot on French and German decision-making as well as well as the decisions of the Balkan League (This is pre-Balkan Wars). Given the alliance has ambitions in both the Ottoman and Austrian directions, they could turn their armies either way (Serbia and Greece seem far more liable to lean towards the Entente, while I imagine Bulgaria will want to attack the Turks... you might see a rift form in the League. Romania, however, can likely be convinced to jump in on the Entente side easy enough, with the Russian regeime being more than willing to sell them arms as well as being supplied via the Dardanelles). If the French from early successes determine that they can knock Italy out of the war quickly, they could very well adopt a more defensive stance against the Germans, while Germany is going to have to decide if they're going to push directly out of E-L or try to flank through Belgium.
How about Russia?
 

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How would this Russian military dictatorship develop alongside the rest of the Russian Empire over time?

If a WW1 equivalent happens ITTL, the military dictatorship might use the lapse in international attention for massive purges.

The Whites and their crimes in the CW are a good indicator.
 
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