WI: Roman Iconoclasm?

The main split between the Orthodox Church and the Western Catholic Church was over the use of icons.

The Patriarch hated them while the Pope tolerated them.

But what if some time like - say in the 1200-1300 the Catholic Church goes through its own massive internal iconoclasm?

What could cause it? (Loss of Jerusalem? / Black Death?)

What would be the effect?
 
Technically there was an iconoclastic movement in the West. It's called Protestantism. :p:p:p

But seriously speaking, there were a lot of internet dissenters. During the 13th century that you mentioned, there were the Fraticelli who rebelled against the decadence of the Papal court, the Cathars who rejected the established Church completely, and the Flagellants who went around whipping themselves as they prayed for God's mercy. And all of these made Europe fertile ground for the Protestant Reformation.

Also, the Schism of 1050 was most definitely NOT caused by icons. It was complicated, and had to do with, among other things, the differing lingua francas of Western and Eastern Europe and the resulting cultures, as well as Papal supremacy in the West.
 
Technically there was an iconoclastic movement in the West. It's called Protestantism. :p:p:p

But seriously speaking, there were a lot of internet dissenters. During the 13th century that you mentioned, there were the Fraticelli who rebelled against the decadence of the Papal court, the Cathars who rejected the established Church completely, and the Flagellants who went around whipping themselves as they prayed for God's mercy. And all of these made Europe fertile ground for the Protestant Reformation.

Also, the Schism of 1050 was most definitely NOT caused by icons. It was complicated, and had to do with, among other things, the differing lingua francas of Western and Eastern Europe and the resulting cultures, as well as Papal supremacy in the West.

Taborite Hussites as well.
 

Spengler

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The main split between the Orthodox Church and the Western Catholic Church was over the use of icons.

The Patriarch hated them while the Pope tolerated them.

But what if some time like - say in the 1200-1300 the Catholic Church goes through its own massive internal iconoclasm?

What could cause it? (Loss of Jerusalem? / Black Death?)

What would be the effect?
It did happen its called Calvinism.
 
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