WI: Roman Democracy established after overthrow of Tarquin?

So after reading more into the ancient Greeks, specifically the establishment of democracy in Athens, I see a lot of parallels to the establishment of the republic in Rome after overthrowing Tarquinius Superbus.

Hippias was overthrown with the help of the Spartan King Kleomenes, and the two main aristocratic factions in Athens, lead by Isagorus and Kleithenes, had a feud leading to Kleomenes establishing Isagorus and his supporters as the rulers of Athens. After being ordered to be disbanded, the Athenian council refused and called on the people to rise up against Kleomenes and Isagorus. They were forced to barricade themselves up in the akropolis, and eventually slip away. Kleisthenes returned, and enacted his reforms, beginning Athenian democracy (bad summary I know, but hopefully it got the point across).

So what if, something similar happens in Rome: After overthrowing Tarquinius Superbus, the aristocrats start feuding, and one of the patricians with a sizeable amount of followers, tries to establish himself as the head of the Roman government. The rest of the patricians call on the people to overthrow him and his supporters-an influential patrician with similar views as Kleisthenes enacts democratic reforms similar to those in Athens.

Alternatively, I imagine another POD for achieving the same ends would be to have the secession of the Plebs turn into a full blown revolt, and they expel the patricians, establishing some sort of Athens esque democracy.

Thoughts? (I may have spelled some of the names wrong).
 
The only issue I can see here is that the era surrounding the initial establishment of the Republic is so utterly un-documented. What we have today is a record of a memory of an oral tradition of a record of a semi-mythical past. The whole Italian peninsula outside the furthest south is a dark room in comparison to Athens' brilliant plaza in the early 5th century BC.

By doing this, you've completely butterflied everything that actually happened leading up to the time period when we've got some historical provenience, and so you're essentially in the mists of prehistory when it comes to guessing 'what happens'. Once your primary source is archaeological, it becomes difficult to create a proper timeline.
 
There were not the sociological, cultural and material conditions for Rome becoming a democracy in 509, in 450 or even in 350.

The democracy in Athens was not only a matter of political craft by Clisthenes. It was the result of a long evolution. And what in fact made democracy in Athens a solid and lastable regime was the fleet built by Themistocles.

The fleet made democracy necessary because with the fleet, democracy was the price to have the thetes (4th class of citizens and by far the majority) to serve in the navy.

You had not such conditions in Rome.

And besides, to have a direct democracy work, you need a closed and mvery coherent citizenry.

One part of the consolidation of the athenian democracy was the law establishments that only the children of both athenian parents would be athenian citizens.

So if ever you have Rome become a democracy around 500 BCE, you can kiss goodbye the domination of Italy by Rome and the roman empire.

Because the key to the development of roman domination was that Rome integrated on unequal and undemocratic terms in its citizenry firstly the aristocracies, and secondly the citizens of neighbouring allied cities.

Rome could build its empire because it net all on an unequal alliance with foreign aristocracies.

You can't build democracy on international terms.

At least it has never been done successfully up to now.

And I rather guess that if the roman people had had their word in 509-500, they may not have expelled the Taraquin kings.
 
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So what would have happened if the Consuls had been overthrown successfully?

E. g. the plebs rising in mass to overthrow their consuls and extradite Mucius Scaevola and Horatius Cocles to Lars Porsenna when he returned with Tarquinius Superbus?

Or the Plebs rise successfully in First Secession in 494?

Or Ap. Herdonius won in what, 458?
 
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