WI: Richard of Cornwall becomes King of England?

Title says all. How would things change if Henry III dies before Edward I is born and his brother, Richard of Cornwall, becomes King Richard II of England? Would he still try and become King of the Romans? How would he handle Simon de Montfort?

Thoughts?
 
Title says all. How would things change if Henry III dies before Edward I is born and his brother, Richard of Cornwall, becomes King Richard II of England? Would he still try and become King of the Romans? How would he handle Simon de Montfort?

Thoughts?

An interesting proposition, I don't think Cornwall would try to become King of the Romans, he'd have his hands full in England as it is.

As to how he deals with De Montfort, would there be much to deal with?
 
England would be much more capably governed in the early-mid 13th century. I doubt you'd even get the Second Barons' War.
 
The fact that he was an outsider with weak connections to the others. So perhaps not?

If Richard became king, I think he would have his hands full with his own kingdom and France, so someone else might become Holy Roman Emperor if Conrad IV doesn't die.

As of now, my thoughts are that he'll still marry Sancha of Provence, but that his eldest son, Henry (OTL Henry of Almain), would be betrothed to Violante/Yolanda of Aragon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violant_of_Aragon) and maybe Eleanor of Castile (Edward I's first wife IOTL) would be betrothed to a son of Richard and Sancha.
 
If Richard became king, I think he would have his hands full with his own kingdom and France, so someone else might become Holy Roman Emperor if Conrad IV doesn't die.

As of now, my thoughts are that he'll still marry Sancha of Provence, but that his eldest son, Henry (OTL Henry of Almain), would be betrothed to Violante/Yolanda of Aragon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violant_of_Aragon) and maybe Eleanor of Castile (Edward I's first wife IOTL) would be betrothed to a son of Richard and Sancha.

Okay interesting, you do not think that she'd be betrothed to Henry herself?
 
Okay interesting, you do not think that she'd be betrothed to Henry herself?

I'm not too sure. IOTL, Eleanor was originally betrothed to Thibault II of Navarre, but his mother broke off the arrangement. She only married Edward as part of a negotiations over Alfonso X's claim to Gascony.
 
I'm not too sure. IOTL, Eleanor was originally betrothed to Thibault II of Navarre, but his mother broke off the arrangement. She only married Edward as part of a negotiations over Alfonso X's claim to Gascony.

Hmm interesting, could such a thing still happen here?
 
I revived this thread partly to discuss two issue I saw with Richard's ascension.

1. The future Edward I of England fell deathly ill in 1246. Supposing Edward, Edmund Crouchback and Henry III all die in that order, and keeping The Anarchy in mind, who would have greater preference in terms of succession - Richard or Henry's daughters?

2. Given Richard's dislike of Simon de Montfort and his sister's marriage to him, could Richard have potentially had the marriage annulled, bringing up Eleanor's previous vow of chastity made in front of the Archbishop of Canterbury? If so, would Eleanor and Simon's children be declared illegitimate?
 
What factors led the electors to vote for him IOTL? Would Richard being king changed it?
He was Frederick II's brother-in-law and a second son with only an appage (Cornwall), also unlike Conradin he was an able adult with a reputation and unlike Alfonso he did not descend from the Staufers.

1. The future Edward I of England fell deathly ill in 1246. Supposing Edward, Edmund Crouchback and Henry III all die in that order, and keeping The Anarchy in mind, who would have greater preference in terms of succession - Richard or Henry's daughters?
Succession laws in England weren't much defined in the 13th century, but I think if Richard looks good enough he'll surpass the girls.
 
He was Frederick II's brother-in-law and a second son with only an appage (Cornwall), also unlike Conradin he was an able adult with a reputation and unlike Alfonso he did not descend from the Staufers.

Oh, so there's still a chance he might try and become King of the Romans then? The only other major candidates I can remember are King Ottokar II of Bohemia and Count William II of Holland.

Succession laws in England weren't much defined in the 13th century, but I think if Richard looks good enough he'll surpass the girls.

Well, in his early years, he used to side with the barons against his brother, mainly to get what he wanted. I could easily imagine Richard trying to do what Philip V of France did IOTL by implementing changing the laws of royal inheritance.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I see Richard being seen as similar to his father, John. And that, while it might be what England needs, would not be something the barons want.
 
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