WI Red Army works w Warsaw Uprising

What if the Soviets had not allowed the 1944 uprising in the Polish capital to massacre the non-communist resistance in the city? Maybe they take the city in August 1944, maybe they allow WAllie planes to use airfields to the east, or something else. What would be the effects of just this change, by itself?

(For our purposes, we're not assuming that longer term Soviet ambitions in Poland are different at this time from OTL, only that context in TTL's summer of 44 is different enough that the relevant leaders are more concerned in the short term with propaganda, etc.)
 
How far are the Soviets willing to go ITTL? By the start of September, the Soviets had beaten off the German counter-attacks that OTL stalled them on the river and brought up enough supplies and forces that a limited offensive which could have conceivably broken through to Warsaw and relieved the Poles would have been possible.
 

B-29_Bomber

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What if the Soviets had not allowed the 1944 uprising in the Polish capital to massacre the non-communist resistance in the city? Maybe they take the city in August 1944, maybe they allow WAllie planes to use airfields to the east, or something else. What would be the effects of just this change, by itself?

(For our purposes, we're not assuming that longer term Soviet ambitions in Poland are different at this time from OTL, only that context in TTL's summer of 44 is different enough that the relevant leaders are more concerned in the short term with propaganda, etc.)

You'd need someone other than Stalin at the helm of the Soviet Union. Otherwise ASB.
 
It's probably impossible for the Red Army to lend much support for the uprising; they'd just come off a massive summer offensive in Bagration, and their supply lines were struggling to keep up.
 
How far are the Soviets willing to go ITTL?
In what respect?
By the start of September, the Soviets had beaten off the German counter-attacks that OTL stalled them on the river and brought up enough supplies and forces that a limited offensive which could have conceivably broken through to Warsaw and relieved the Poles would have been possible.
That works for the OP. What would be the effects?
 
In what respect?

I meant as in precisely what is the limit in the degree of support the Soviets are willing to give. Because as I subsequently commented, it was within the Soviets power to potentially try and relieve the uprising by the time September rolled around.

That works for the OP. What would be the effects?
Assuming such an offensive is successful, Warsaw isn't as devastated and the Home Army is dies to Soviet bullets instead of Nazi ones. That's really pretty much it.
 
It's probably impossible for the Red Army to lend much support for the uprising; they'd just come off a massive summer offensive in Bagration, and their supply lines were struggling to keep up.

This is true for the first 2-3 weeks or so, but the Uprising lasted until the beginning of October. If the Soviets were capable of launching a large offensive into Romania, they were also capable of a limited advance into a city right next to the frontlines which was largely under allied control.

Assuming such an offensive is successful, Warsaw isn't as devastated and the Home Army is dies to Soviet bullets instead of Nazi ones. That's really pretty much it.

To quote an expert on crushing Polish resistance, the governor-general of the General Government, "Warsaw is the source of 4/5 of our problems". Warsaw was a very important organizational hub for many of the resistance organizations, meaning that the Soviets have a harder time sovietizing Poland if they relieve the uprising. This may lead to slightly less harsh Stalinism in Poland. (In OTL the fact that it was already somewhat less harsh then in most of the other warsaw pact countries is partly attributed to the scale of the postwar resistance leading to Moscow being reluctant to enforce as many measures as it would have liked in order to reduce problems.)
 
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The Western Allies will learn a month or so down the road that there have been some "incidents of disorderly conduct" by "criminal elements" which made it necessary for the Soviet troops to disarm the Polish Home Army. Then, off to Siberia with them. Or perhaps just a quick bullet to the back of the head, a la Katyn.
 
The Western Allies will learn a month or so down the road that there have been some "incidents of disorderly conduct" by "criminal elements" which made it necessary for the Soviet troops to disarm the Polish Home Army. Then, off to Siberia with them. Or perhaps just a quick bullet to the back of the head, a la Katyn.
The leaders will be send to Lubianka (sp), the rank and file will be drafted into the People's Army.
 
It's probably impossible for the Red Army to lend much support for the uprising; they'd just come off a massive summer offensive in Bagration, and their supply lines were struggling to keep up.

They could always not actively interfere with attempts to support said uprising by the Western Allies (like preventing flights from that US airbase in the USSR), bad-mouthing the Home Army regularly, and betraying and killing Home Army units elsewhere in Poland.

Given the rest of the shenanigans the Soviets pulled re: Poland and the Home Army, the idea that the Soviets couldn't support it strikes me as politically-convenient.
 
To elaborate on my earlier comment, here's Operation Tempest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tempest

Note that on at least two occasions the Home Army and Red Army cooperated against the Germans--and then the Soviets betrayed them.

The Soviets assisting the Warsaw Uprising, assuming the same motive, leadership, etc., would likely end the same way.

That said, the Soviets pulling some kind of treachery in liberated Warsaw rather than smaller-scale shenanigans elsewhere might be harder to hide from the Western public.
 
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