WI Project Cybersyn continues?

Is there a timeline talking about this?

Would the subsequent socialist movements get more publicity and success if they implement the exact same reforms as Chile did?

What would that mean for Cuba, USSR and the PRC?

Would there be Chile's "Satellite States" with their economic system, reaching up to Honduras and Guatemala? ;)

It could make Glushkov's computer socialism, combined with Kosigyn's reform less politically toxic, and therefore, "reform" Eastern Europe's economy easier, so no more shortages and stuff.

What do you think happens to the movement of socialism and communism across the world?

Before we know the results of Project Cybersyn, it was interrupted by a military coup d'état. So we will never know of the results.
 
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I don't think success was ever really on the table for that idea, so I don't see how short of Alien Space Bat intervention.

They simply didn't have the technology. they didn't have any technology realy. It feels crazy from today's persective that they even attemptd it without a computer. The cooeisbtion effort relied on everyone being honest and the ones coordinating it being able to make the correct decsisions withe the correct data they were given.

Add to that the vested interest the US had in ensuring it failed, it had the decks stacked so hard against it that it isn't even funny.

The only way I could ever see it work is if somone actually decided to help it along from the outside.

Maybe someone at the CIA deciding that by ensuring that it worked they could convicen people in the Warsaw pact that the reason why their communism wasn't working was not that communism was flawed in general but that their politicians were too corrupt to properly implment it, leading to regime change in the east and much more money being send to the CIA et all to stop communism in the west. A win-win.
 
I don't think success was ever really on the table for that idea, so I don't see how short of Alien Space Bat intervention.

They simply didn't have the technology. they didn't have any technology realy. It feels crazy from today's persective that they even attemptd it without a computer. The cooeisbtion effort relied on everyone being honest and the ones coordinating it being able to make the correct decsisions withe the correct data they were given.

Add to that the vested interest the US had in ensuring it failed, it had the decks stacked so hard against it that it isn't even funny.

The only way I could ever see it work is if somone actually decided to help it along from the outside.

Maybe someone at the CIA deciding that by ensuring that it worked they could convicen people in the Warsaw pact that the reason why their communism wasn't working was not that communism was flawed in general but that their politicians were too corrupt to properly implment it, leading to regime change in the east and much more money being send to the CIA et all to stop communism in the west. A win-win.
Maybe.
 
"Succeeds" is a narrow term in the historical context; "continues and has ripple effects good, bad, and indifferent" is more like it -- in the case of my TL. One of the long-term effects, though not deliberate, is not entirely unlike @Loki-L's last graf. But whatever way you lean on its viability you've got to love the tulip chairs in the control room. Lost futures, indeed.
 
"Succeeds" is a narrow term in the historical context; "continues and has ripple effects good, bad, and indifferent" is more like it -- in the case of my TL. One of the long-term effects, though not deliberate, is not entirely unlike @Loki-L's last graf. But whatever way you lean on its viability you've got to love the tulip chairs in the control room. Lost futures, indeed.
Where is it specifically in your timeline?
 
Where is it specifically in your timeline?

Hasn't shown up yet bc the proofed-and-published chapter that kicks it off by including the 1973 political crisis in Chile hasn't dropped at this point. But it's storyboarded as one of the many (many, oy, many...) threads in the TL. It's tackled different ways by different people, especially in a period when you still have very large, coordinated industrial organizations in both the "old" West (Europe and US and fellow-travelers) and the Eastern Bloc where people with primitive local area networks take a look. Mileage may very. It is interesting, though, to think of a functionality alternate to PRESTEL and ARPANET that, rather than being based on knowledge sharing and detailed communication between research specialists and/or military types, is about geographically broad "local" networking of large industrial organizations. Of course as posters above pointed out it's deeply dependent on transparency, and large multifaceted industrial corporations are (1950s business theorists aside) not actually that well-known for systemic honesty...
 
Hasn't shown up yet bc the proofed-and-published chapter that kicks it off by including the 1973 political crisis in Chile hasn't dropped at this point. But it's storyboarded as one of the many (many, oy, many...) threads in the TL. It's tackled different ways by different people, especially in a period when you still have very large, coordinated industrial organizations in both the "old" West (Europe and US and fellow-travelers) and the Eastern Bloc where people with primitive local area networks take a look. Mileage may very. It is interesting, though, to think of a functionality alternate to PRESTEL and ARPANET that, rather than being based on knowledge sharing and detailed communication between research specialists and/or military types, is about geographically broad "local" networking of large industrial organizations. Of course as posters above pointed out it's deeply dependent on transparency, and large multifaceted industrial corporations are (1950s business theorists aside) not actually that well-known for systemic honesty...
Huh.

So you're basically faced with the same problems as human economic planning did, just less severe this time.
 
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