WI Princess Charlotte's stillborn son is born alive & healthy?

On the evening of 3 November 1817, her water broke and labour commenced. After a 50-hour labour at Claremont House, she delivered a stillborn 9-pound son on 5 November 1817. The second stage of labour had lasted 24 hours. Initially following delivery, Charlotte seemed to do well, but after several hours she became restless, had difficulty breathing, and her pulse grew fast and feeble. Five and a half hours after the delivery, she died, presumably from an undetected post-partum haemorrhage, on 6 November.
WI Charlotte's son was born healthy and alive and but she dies form complications as per OTL? The boy (lets name him George in honour of his grandfather) assumes the Crown in 1830 after George's IV death and becomes George V of United Kingdom aged 13. How is this altering History? Would Leopold accepts the Belgian throne in 1830? Does "George V" inherits Belgian throne too after his father's death in 1865? (Also there is an interesting twist here... in 1828 Leopold was offered the Greek throne but he declined the offer... would he had accepted it then?)
Any thoughts?
 
Leopold under these circumstances would not be offered the Belgian or Greek thrones - support for him was largely and in part based on his "disappointment" following the death of Princess Charlotte - I suspect he remains in England with his young son and is probably named Regent in 1830 (in preference to the Duke of Clarence)
 
Leopold under these circumstances would not be offered the Belgian or Greek thrones - support for him was largely and in part based on his "disappointment" following the death of Princess Charlotte - I suspect he remains in England with his young son and is probably named Regent in 1830 (in preference to the Duke of Clarence)

I doubt Leopold would have made Regent. He was foriegn after all and the royals would definetly want one of their own as Regent. The only reason Victoria's mother was considered as her regent was that the next in line was the villanous Duke of Cumberland who no one wanted to see in power. Clarence is a whole other matter.
 
In 1830 the choice of regent would have been the Duke of Clarence (died 1837) or the Duke of Cumberland neither of whom would have been regarded as popular choices. Assuming Leopold had remained in England with his motherless son - his popularity might have made him a preferred choice for the Regency. It would have been probably settled by George IV prior to his death anyhow.

Victoria's mother was considered as the natural choice because of a lack of close male relatives (Cumberland became King of Hanover in 1837 and wouldn't have been eligible)

I doubt Leopold would have made Regent. He was foriegn after all and the royals would definetly want one of their own as Regent. The only reason Victoria's mother was considered as her regent was that the next in line was the villanous Duke of Cumberland who no one wanted to see in power. Clarence is a whole other matter.
 
In 1830 the choice of regent would have been the Duke of Clarence (died 1837) or the Duke of Cumberland neither of whom would have been regarded as popular choices. Assuming Leopold had remained in England with his motherless son - his popularity might have made him a preferred choice for the Regency. It would have been probably settled by George IV prior to his death anyhow.

Victoria's mother was considered as the natural choice because of a lack of close male relatives (Cumberland became King of Hanover in 1837 and wouldn't have been eligible)

Why would Clarence have been an unpopular choice? He was no near as self-indulgent as George IV or conservative and cruel as Cumberland. If anything he was one of the more socially acceptable brothers. Plus, I would imagine George IV would choose his brother (who I assume he was on good terms with) over the widow of his estranged daughter.
 
I was using the most obvious reference points for the regency of a minor monarch - the 18th century minority of the heir to the throne acts -
1751 on the death of the Prince of Wales (the future George III was only 12) vested the regency in the widowed Princess of Wales with a regency council.
Again in 1765 (when George III's children were infants) - that act invested the Regency in Queen Charlotte or the King's Mother the Princess Augusta Dowager Princess of Wales not the King's brothers and again required a regency council.
IN 1830 a new Regency Act was passed - this one to cover the accession of the young Princess Victoria - in the event of her being under age then the regency was invested in her mother Victoria Duchess of Kent. If King William's wife Adelaide bore a child before her husbands death then she would act as regent for that child.

Parliament would have been the principal arbitor in the matter not George IV and was more likely to trust the popular widower of the popular Princess Charlotte than her deeply mistrusted and disliked uncles, although Clarence was indeed not as unpopular as his surviving brother, it would also be following the precedent of the 18th Century acts which vested the regency (along with a regency council to act as a brake) in the surviving parent of the minor King or Queen.
 
Remember that in TTL the Kingdom of Hannover will not pass to Charlotte's son as they still fall under Salic Law. OTL's William IV will become King of Hanover following the death of George IV. That probably removes him from the regency. He'll be succeeded by Ernest Augustus providing he doesn't produce an heir in TTL. Given that they're rulers of Hanover I doubt either Clarence or Cumberland would be considered as Regents...
 
Remember that in TTL the Kingdom of Hannover will not pass to Charlotte's son as they still fall under Salic Law. OTL's William IV will become King of Hanover following the death of George IV. That probably removes him from the regency. He'll be succeeded by Ernest Augustus providing he doesn't produce an heir in TTL. Given that they're rulers of Hanover I doubt either Clarence or Cumberland would be considered as Regents...

Charlotte's son would be 13 years old when he would succeed his grandfather in 1830... His father would be appointed as Regent propably but with a foreign Prince as Regent how possible it is for the Duke of Cumberland (or the Duke of Sussex and the Duke of Cambrige) to stage a coup and claim the Regency?
 
Charlotte's son would be 13 years old when he would succeed his grandfather in 1830... His father would be appointed as Regent propably but with a foreign Prince as Regent how possible it is for the Duke of Cumberland (or the Duke of Sussex and the Duke of Cambrige) to stage a coup and claim the Regency?

Er not very

I suppose he could try to whip up the Orange Lodges but the army would remain loyal to the crown, and the people hate Ernest anyway

I guess he could shoot Leopold, shout "I claim the Regency !" and then get shot himself...

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Grey Wolf
 
Well it would be difficult for a foreign prince (aka Leopold) to act as a Regent at the time... He would be disliked by the people because he wasnt British... If Parliament wants to solve this problem he could declare the young King adult so neither Leopold (who would be antipathetic as a foreigner) nor Cumberland (who would be disliked anyway) would be involved in UK politics...
 
I don't see why Leopold wouldn't be regent - Albert was named as a possible regent in the event of Victoria's death. There'd be thirteen years of anticipation of a regency and it would give plenty of time for this to be resolved.
 
Why isn't Leopold a viable Regent for the boy if he doesn't become King of Belgium? He was made a British Field Marshal and Knight of the Garter, and was even made a Royal Highness after his wife died.
 
just a thought, but William Duke of Clarence, Edward, Duke of Kent, Adolphus, Duke of Cambridge, all married in OTL because there was no heir, if the boy is born alive there is an heir and no reason for them to give up there much loved mistresses. any way Ernest Augustus was married in 1815, but didn't have a child till 1819, any way he had just one child, so maybe in TTL he has a girl or no children.......
 
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