WI: President DC Stephenson

DC Stephenson avoids the 1925 murder scandal and after a much worse great depression he's elected in either 1932 or 1936 against Garner, whichever is more plausible. How bad do things get and how would he compare to contemporary fascists?
 
How does Stephenson, a Republican, win in 1932 or 1936 against a Democrat, especially after the Great Depression (that everyone blamed on the GOP)?
 
How does Stephenson, a Republican, win in 1932 or 1936 against a Democrat, especially after the Great Depression (that everyone blamed on the GOP)?
Easy, he's not running as a republican. I'm pretty sure that if he doesn't run as a third party he could get dixiecrat support in 1932 and in 1936 we're assuming FDR was assassinated and he just has to beat Garner.
 
I'm pretty sure him avoiding the scandal and pulling a Trump is fairly plausible so does anybody know how far he could push the constitution? Would he have an aggressive foreign policy?
 
Easy, he's not running as a republican. I'm pretty sure that if he doesn't run as a third party he could get dixiecrat support in 1932 and in 1936 we're assuming FDR was assassinated and he just has to beat Garner.
Okay so,

1. Stephenson was a Republican by his murder trial, so this will require him to return to the Democratic Party.
2. Why would Dixiecrats oppose the born-and-bred Texan John Nance Garner, the guy who voted for the poll tax in 1901 and supported African- and Mexican-American disenfranchisement.
3. Why would the Garner administration be unpopular enough that a *quasi-fascist* gets elected? Garner was no archconservative IOTL -- he supported the income tax, opposed tariffs, and presided over the quite progressive 72nd Congress. And if FDR was assassinated, there will be even more pressure to follow Roosevelt's policies and implement a program similar to the New Deal (which was based more on pragmatism than ideology, anyways).
 
Okay so,

1. Stephenson was a Republican by his murder trial, so this will require him to return to the Democratic Party.
2. Why would Dixiecrats oppose the born-and-bred Texan John Nance Garner, the guy who voted for the poll tax in 1901 and supported African- and Mexican-American disenfranchisement.
3. Why would the Garner administration be unpopular enough that a *quasi-fascist* gets elected? Garner was no archconservative IOTL -- he supported the income tax, opposed tariffs, and presided over the quite progressive 72nd Congress. And if FDR was assassinated, there will be even more pressure to follow Roosevelt's policies and implement a program similar to the New Deal (which was based more on pragmatism than ideology, anyways).
I thought the only organization Stephenson was affiliated with was the Klan and I thought Garner was viewed as just plain weak,
 
I thought the only organization Stephenson was affiliated with was the Klan and I thought Garner was viewed as just plain weak,
The Klan in Indiana was popular amongst Republicans as well (the KKK was not only anti-black — it was also anti-Catholic, anti-Jew, etc. that appealed to all sections of society).

Garner wasn’t necessarily weak, but he was uncharismatic and not particularly liked by Northern urban voters esp. labor and African-Americans. But then again, so was LBJ...
 
Stephenson was a master politician. He would make dramatic arrivals at rallies, flying in and landing at the site, to deliver a rousing speech.

He had mobilized women; the female Klan auxiliary in Indiana was remarkably powerful.

He was indeed a mass organizer; Indiana had one of the highest proportions of Klan membership of any state.

He was not above showmanship; he would receive visitors in an office, pausing to answer the telephone and bark orders into it. After a while he would answer the telephone one more time, speak quietly and respectfully, and end the conversation, "Yes. Mr. President."

(There was a button on the floor under his desk which rang the telephone. However, there were rumors that Harding had secretly joined the Klan, to counteract rumors that he was "passing".)

And there were some funny things about Madge Olberholzer's suicide.

Nevertheless, if he had been able to hold himself back, he would have been a power in Indiana; he probably could have overcome the anti-Klan and anti-Stephenson Klan factions in the legislature and become governor himself, and from there, who knows?
 
Stephenson was a master politician. He would make dramatic arrivals at rallies, flying in and landing at the site, to deliver a rousing speech.

He had mobilized women; the female Klan auxiliary in Indiana was remarkably powerful.

He was indeed a mass organizer; Indiana had one of the highest proportions of Klan membership of any state.

He was not above showmanship; he would receive visitors in an office, pausing to answer the telephone and bark orders into it. After a while he would answer the telephone one more time, speak quietly and respectfully, and end the conversation, "Yes. Mr. President."

(There was a button on the floor under his desk which rang the telephone. However, there were rumors that Harding had secretly joined the Klan, to counteract rumors that he was "passing".)

And there were some funny things about Madge Olberholzer's suicide.

Nevertheless, if he had been able to hold himself back, he would have been a power in Indiana; he probably could have overcome the anti-Klan and anti-Stephenson Klan factions in the legislature and become governor himself, and from there, who knows?
Would it be too much of a stretch to choose whichever is the more probable of the two election dates and focus on what he can do as president? Does the constitution say anything that would stop him from implementing mandatory jim crow nationwide?
 
He's elected to Congress in 1922, and ends up on the 1932 ticket with FDR when the president-elect is assassinated....
 
Will he have the authority to put up internment camps (death camps are likely out of the question) or is he more likely just to incite an American pogrom?
I don't know. The challenge was to get him into the presidency, not what he does with it.
 
DC was a classic smooth-talking flim-flam man of his times who was too full of himself and lacked self-control. For a fictional contemporary think Elmer Gantry. Heck he was of the same cloth as Aimee MacPherson as well. He believed in DC and in anything that could propel DC ahead. Even if he avoided the Madge scandal he would have over-reached at some point and brought himself down, as well as the Depression would have changed the focal points of American politics away from his strengths. I just don't see any way to make the historical (or is that hysterical) DC president. His power in mid-20's Indiana is another case of the man and the hour meeting in the right place. Disclaimer, my grandfather was a Klan Member in small-town Indiana during DC's heyday, circa 1924. It was really mainstream then and there.
 
To quote an old post of mine:

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Not having a Stephenson scandal would not IMO have saved the Klan.

The Klan had reached its peak and was starting to decline even before the Stephenson scandal hit in 1925. Already in 1924 it suffered such setbacks as the defeat of governor Walter Pierce in Oregon and the victory of "Ma" Ferguson over Klansman Felix D. Robertson for governor of Texas.

The Stephenson affair was not the only cause of the Klan's decline. Another important factor was internal dissension, both at the national level (the dispute between William Joseph Simmons and his successor as Imperial Wizard, Hiram Evans) and locally. (It is remarkable how in city after city, even before Stephenson was convicted, large numbers of the Klansmen--in some cities virtually all of them--seceded and formed new organizations like the Minute Men of America in Denver, the Independent Protestant Knights of America in Niagara, New York, etc. See Kenneth Jackson, *The Ku Klux Klan in the City, 1915-1930,* https://books.google.com/books?id=xkgwSauBgTwC&pg=PA254 ) Another point is that electoral success became harder as the Klan's opponents united, and electoral frustration in turn led to decline in membership. (It also led non-Klan politicians who had associated themselves with the Klan to back away from it, so that joining the Klan would no longer bring patronage benefits.) Also, the Klan's issues became less compelling: Reds seemed less scary than in the early 1920s, immigration had already been restricted, Prohibition proved unenforceable, and the Catholic Church obviously was not going away. Finally, the sheer *novelty* of the group wore off--I think this factor is often underestimated. The 1920's was an era of short-lived crazes, and in some respects the Klan was one of them, though obviously more sinister than most. Even Al Smith's presidential candidacy in 1928 could not really revive it.

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I might have added that even the very narrow failure of the Democrats to denounce the Klan by name in their 1924 platform was not really a victory for the Klan; as Klansmen privately noted with concern, even many of those who succeeded in defeating the anti-Klan plank (like Bryan) made clear that they disagreed with the Klan.
 
I'm pretty sure him avoiding the scandal and pulling a Trump is fairly plausible so does anybody know how far he could push the constitution? Would he have an aggressive foreign policy?

No, it's laughable to compare him to Trump, who was one of the nation's leading celebrities for decades. There was one and only one potential presidential candidate of that era comparable to Trump: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18403565

(Although as I also noted in that threas, Ford differed from Trump in some important respects: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18405150 https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18405294)
 
No, it's laughable to compare him to Trump, who was one of the nation's leading celebrities for decades. There was one and only one potential presidential candidate of that era comparable to Trump: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18403565

(Although as I also noted in that threas, Ford differed from Trump in some important respects: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18405150 https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ism-still-matters-today.461532/#post-18405294)
Actually I was referring to the relentless race baiting.
 
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