WI: POTUS alternate line challenge

heres the challenge (probably done a million times):
create a line of POTUS from #1 to current without using a president that was elected in OTL.

instead of
Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Madison
to
Reagan
G. H. W. Bush
Clinton
G. W. Bush

it would be a line of presidents that never held office but would be realisticaly elected in their time period.
 
The problem is that if you hold a strict interpretation of the butterfly effect (or even a loose one, really), the first president changing will logically result in the likelyhood of pretty much all of the modern politicans possible for the 2004 election dropping to zero...

1789 - Benedict Arnold (Independant)
1792 - Benedict Arnold (Independant)
1796 - Alexander Hamilton (National Republican)
1800 - Samuel Adams (Democratic Republican)
(1803 - Aaron Burr (Democratic Republican) (Acting President))
1804 - Alexander Hamilton (National Republican)
1808 - John Marshall (National Republican)
1812 - John Marshall (National Republican)
1816 - John Marshall (National Republican)
(1819 - DeWitt Clinton (National Republican) (Acting President))
1820 - DeWitt Clinton (National Republican)
1824 - William H. Crawford (Democratic Republican)
1828 - William H. Crawford (Democratic Republican)
1832 - William Wirt (Nationalist)
(1834 - Daniel Webster (Nationalist) (Acting President))
1836 - William Smith (Democratic)
1840 - John C. Calhoun (Democratic)
1844 - Daniel Webster (Nationalist)
1848 - John C. Calhoun (Democratic)
1852 - Winfield Scott (Democratic)
1856 - John Fremont (Nationalist)
1857 - Military Coup against Fremont. Robert E. Lee (D) installed as President.
1860 - Lee confirmed as President by military fiat on his side in ongoing Civil War, Fremont confirmed by election in states under his control. War ends in 1862 with Fremont as President.
1864 - Benjamin F. Butler (Nationalist)
1868 - Benjamin F. Butler (Nationalist)
1872 - Benjamin F. Butler (Nationalist)
1876 - Benjamin F. Wade (Nationalist)
1880 - Lafayette S. Foster (Nationalist)
1884 - Lafayette S. Foster (Nationalist)
1888 - Allen G. Thurman (Nationalist)
1892 - Adlai Stevenson (Nationalist Party)
1896 - Roger Wolcott (Independant)
1900 - William J. Bryan (American Labor)
1904 - Alton B. Parker (National American Party)
1908 - Eugene V. Debs (American Social-Labor Party)
1912 - James M. Cox (National American Party)
1916 - James M. Cox (National American Party)
1920 - James M. Cox (Independant- NAP Dissolved)
1924 - Edward L. Logan (National Party)
1928 - Edward L. Logan (National Party)
1932 - Smedley Butler (Military Coup to prevent ASLP Victory)
1934 - Elections Suspended
1938 - Elections Suspended, Butler replaced by Douglas C. MacArthur
1942 - Elections Suspended
1948 - Elections Suspended
1952 - Vincent Hallinan (Progress Party)
1956 - Vincent Hallinan (Progress Party)
(1955 - George Wallace (Progress Party) (Acting President))
1960 - George Wallace (Progress Party)
1964 - Nelson Rockefeller (Commerce Party)
1968 - Hubert Humphrey (Progress Party)
1972 - Nelson Rockefeller (Commerce Party)
1976 - George McGovern (Progress Party)
1980 - George McGovern (Progress Party)
1984 - Walter Mondale (Progress Party)
1988 - Donald Rumsfeld (Commerce Party)
1992 - Albert Gore, Jr. (Progress Party)
1996 - Ralph Nader (Progress Party)
2000 - Ralph Nader (Progress Party)
2004 - Mitt Romney (Commerce Party)
 

HueyLong

Banned
The problem is that if you hold a strict interpretation of the butterfly effect (or even a loose one, really), the first president changing will logically result in the likelyhood of pretty much all of the modern politicans possible for the 2004 election dropping to zero...

Doesn't even require butterflies for that to be true- could be a direct effect.

Also, a sugegstion: Wouldn't Arnold try for more than two terms?

And, Acura NSX, what about a US that arises slightly earlier, (or later) or has a different term structure?
 
I borrowed from Imajin's list slightly. I have seven OTL Presidents on here, so it's not exactly original.

1789 - Benedict Arnold (independent)
1792 – Benedict Arnold (independent)
1796 – Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)
1800 – Aaron Burr (Democrat-Republican)
1804 – Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Federalist)
1808 – George Clinton (Democrat-Republican)
(1812-1813 – Acting President John Langdon)
1812 – DeWitt Clinton (Democrat-Republican)
1816 – DeWitt Clinton (Democrat-Republican)
1820 – William H. Crawford (Democrat-Republican)
1824 – William H. Crawford (Democrat-Republican)
1828 – Andrew Jackson (Democrat-Republican/Democrat)
1832 – Andrew Jackson (Democrat)
1836 – Andrew Jackson (Democrat)
1840 – Henry Clay (Whig)
1844 – Silas Wright (Democrat)
(1847-1849 – Acting President James K. Polk)
1848 – James K. Polk (Democrat)
(1849-1853 – Acting President Lewis Cass)
1852 – Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856 - Stephen A. Douglas (Democrat)
1860 – Stephen A. Douglas (Democrat)
(1861-1865 – Acting President Andrew Johnson)
1864 - Hannibal Hamlin (Liberal)
1868 – Hannibal Hamlin (Liberal)
1872 – Ambrose E. Burnside (Liberal)
1876 – Ambrose E. Burnside (Liberal)
1880 – Ambrose E. Burnside (Liberal)
(1881 – Acting President James A. Garfield (Liberal))
(1881-1885 – Acting President John G. Carlisle (Democrat))
1884 – Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
1888 – Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
1892 – James G. Blaine (Liberal) died before taking office
(1893-1897 – President Whitelaw Reid)
1896 – William Jennings Bryan (Democrat)
1900 – William Jennings Bryan (Democrat)
1904 – Adlai E. Stevenson (Democrat)
1908 – William Jennings Bryan (independent)
1912 – Charles J. Bonaparte (Liberal)
1916 – Thomas R. Marshall (Democrat)
1920 – Leonard Wood (Liberal)
1924 – Leonard Wood (Liberal)
(1927-1929 – Acting President John C. Coolidge)
1928 – Andrew W. Mellon (Liberal)
(1930-1937 – President Douglas MacArthur (Military))
(1937-1940 – President George C. Marshall (Military))
1940 – Huey P. Long (Progressive)
1944 – Huey P. Long (Progressive)
1948 – Huey P. Long (Progressive)
1952 – Huey P. Long (Progressive)
(1954-1957 – Acting President Estes Kefauver)
1956 – Estes Kefauver (Progressive)
1960 – Richard M. Nixon (Republican)
1964 – John F. Kennedy (Progressive)
1968 – George C. Wallace (Independence)
1972 – Richard M. Nixon (Republican)
1976 – George McGovern (Progressive)
1980 – George McGovern (Progressive)
1984 – Robert F. Kennedy (Progressive)
1988 – Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
1992 - Paul Tsongas (Progressive)
(1997 – Acting President Bob Kerrey)
1996 – Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000 – Dick Cheney (Republican)
2004 – Mary Landrieu (Progressive)
 

Glen

Moderator
heres the challenge (probably done a million times):
create a line of POTUS from #1 to current without using a president that was elected in OTL.

instead of
Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Madison
to
Reagan
G. H. W. Bush
Clinton
G. W. Bush

it would be a line of presidents that never held office but would be realisticaly elected in their time period.

Simple. Kill Washington in the ARW. Preferably before Benedict Arnold goes over to the British. Arnold and Burr can become heroes of the Revolution.
 
1789- Benedict Arnold

1792- Benedict Arnold declares martial law when elections go the wrong way.

1806- 2nd American Revolution

etc...


I wouldn't wanna see that cat in charge. He wasn't the devil he's made out to be. But I think he would have held on to power, however he could.
 
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I was actually thinking of having him get killed off during his second term- this would give him just two terms, but doesn't set a two terms tradition, so there are more three-term presidents in my scenario (Marshall, Butler, and Cox)...
 
i was thinking maybe washington doesn't run for the presidency. since john adams, thomas jefferson, james monroe, james madison aren't an option, i'm not sure if it would ASB'sh if any of the following: Paul Revere, Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine and/or John Handcock became presidents. Maybe John Handcock for the first 2 elections.

what about a US that arises slightly earlier, (or later) or has a different term structure?
i was thinking about that possibility. maybe early enough to get Ben Franklin elected as the first president. Maybe ARW starts earlier than OTL.
 
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