WI: Portugal Colonizes Northern Luzon

From what I learned, the only reason why it did not happen is that Lowland Northern Luzon converted to Islam in early 1500s before the Portuguese would be able to convert and colonize them - Muslim scholars and historians know this fact, the second POD for this is actually the Maniago revolt succeeding and the Spanish are forced to cede Northern Luzon to Portugal in the Independence wars, saving their ass from humiliation.

We would focus on the first POD, If Portugal successfully convinces the people of Northern Luzon to bow to Portugal, would Portugal also colonize the rest of the Philippines?



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While the fierce and sharp people of Northern Luzon are about the bow, they draw out their bamboo spears and impale and bludgeon the portuguese.

Perhaps the majapahit empire retains control of eastern indonesia and thus the portuguese establish trading post at seludong and and the visayas, and through trade links and political manuevering, expand their influence and jurisdiction throughout the isles. Would require a 15th century POD in Indonesia.
 
Not wanting to bother, but why have you made so many threads arguing about this same subject?
You could just bump an older thread, imo.
 
While the fierce and sharp people of Northern Luzon are about the bow, they draw out their bamboo spears and impale and bludgeon the portuguese.

Perhaps the majapahit empire retains control of eastern indonesia and thus the portuguese establish trading post at seludong and and the visayas, and through trade links and political manuevering, expand their influence and jurisdiction throughout the isles. Would require a 15th century POD in Indonesia.
The Lowlanders are easily converted by the Bruneians to Islam so they can get christianized by the Portuguese, it is the Highlanders who are fierce.
They are the intermediaries between the Javanese and Ryukyu/Japan that they had Japanese Pirate Outposts that is why acquiring it would be useful for the Portuguese but not the Spanish and they can help them against the Bruneians.



Not wanting to bother, but why have you made so many threads arguing about this same subject?
You could just bump an older thread, imo.

Yes, It has been weeks since I had interest in the subject and nobody responded for four weeks, although it is a part of my TL.
 
I think a Portuguese Philippines in the late 16th century would be possible but it depends on quick timing and careful use of manpower. But it means that Portugal has a much stronger position to interfere in East Asian affairs; however, it would be divided into several regions that are crown colonies and Christianized vassals.

If Sebastian's death at Alcácer Quibir still goes as OTL I can see ATL Portuguese Philippines being either transferred to Spain for whatever reason or the Dutch snatching it, leading to a stronger VOC and a larger Dutch East Indies.
 
I think a Portuguese Philippines from the late 16th century would be possible but it depends on quick timing and careful use of manpower. But it means that Portugal has a much stronger position to interfere in East Asian affairs; however, it would be divided into several regions that are crown colonies and Christianized vassals.

Portuguese at first would gain Northern Luzon if they attempt to colonize the Philippines since that area stands between Japan and Malacca, it would be similar to the Visayans submitting themselves to the Spanish to fight the hostile Bruneians but in this case it is the Northern Luzon allying with the Portuguese against the Bruneians but they should get it in the early 16th century just after Malacca or in Mid 16th century with a different political scenario.

I think if this happens after Magellan we would have Spanish Visayas in this scenario.
 
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