WI: Pornography socially acceptable

JoeMulk

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How do you get a timeline where pornos are socially acceptable in the US to the point that they can be shown in mainstream movie theaters without it being a big deal?
 
Man, it's weird, but I was thinking about this the other day. (For no reason... none whatsoever...)

I think having it considered art somehow is the best bet, and probably in order to do this you'll have to have censorship fail time and time again. No clue how to make any of that happen.

The effects are more interesting. If our collective vision of pornography is an exercise in looking for the "best" from an artistic perspective instead of the ones that adhere to our respective fantasies, then our fantasies gradually become altered over generations as well.

And more interestingly, growing up, our concept of sex itself is altered and the butterflies of this could be... unique.
 
Man, it's weird, but I was thinking about this the other day. (For no reason... none whatsoever...)

I think having it considered art somehow is the best bet, and probably in order to do this you'll have to have censorship fail time and time again. No clue how to make any of that happen.

The effects are more interesting. If our collective vision of pornography is an exercise in looking for the "best" from an artistic perspective instead of the ones that adhere to our respective fantasies, then our fantasies gradually become altered over generations as well.

And more interestingly, growing up, our concept of sex itself is altered and the butterflies of this could be... unique.

Well yes the "art" approach can be used. But there has been a number of instances with explicit sexual scenes being used in normal films.

I can remember the Danish movie "The Idiots" by Lars Von Trier (You might remember him from this years Cannes Festival scandal). In the movie there all of a sudden is a "gang bang" with explicit images. I remember seeing the movie in the cinema, not knowing this would happend. You could here the "Ohh!" from the crowd, and everybody went completely silent, but afterwards, everybody was like "Ok. That wasn't so dangerous". But quite a funny experience though. hence it was not what you expected to see in the cinema.
 
There was a short period in the late 70s where they sort of were. You need to avoid the swing to the right of the 80s.
 
Censorship surely is anti freedom of speech so if you had an early enough ruling by the USSC that state or city bans on porn (lithographs whatever) was unconstitutional...

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Grey Wolf
 
To get mainstream acceptance you'd basically have to change the first settlers from the Puritans to some other group (Hippie Christians?)... The only thing Americans love more than their vices is crusading against those vices... :p

I don't think you can get explicit sex in mainstream movies without a pre 1900 POD or some almost ASB 20th century POD like a radical revolution of some sort and 2-3 generations of nutjob leaders.
 
Deep Throat was released mainstream theaters, As was I am Curious Yellow. Both films were hard core porn, and caused many law suites. Then the so called Moral Majority came along and set US culture back 20 years.
docfl
 
Two stupid American question here. (1) By calling something "porno" aren't you by definition calling it something that does not belong in the mainstream, and (2) do "mainstream" movie houses in most of Europe regularly screen "porno" as if they were mainstream films? I was unaware of that.
 
Deep Throat was released mainstream theaters, As was I am Curious Yellow. Both films were hard core porn, and caused many law suites. Then the so called Moral Majority came along and set US culture back 20 years.
docfl

I saw "Yellow" first run, and the distributers and theatres went out of their way to claim the the film was not pornography, but an art film that explored boundaries. Thus, regardless of its content, it was not presented as "hard core porn" in the same way Debbie Does Dallas or the stuff on the internet might be.
 
well i remember my uncle saying that back in the 70's & early 80's they show them on driveins like in the middle of the week
 
The movie Shortbus featured unsimulated sex between the actors, and it was shown, I believe, in normal theaters -- and in the last couple years. In order for porn to be acceptable, you'd just have to make it generally more artistic and well-done, as opposed to the stupid shit we typically think of as porn IOTL. But, I doubt the kind of porn that's fappable would ever be mainstream without some major POD.
 
monothiesm in general is anti-pornography and sexual free expression. If you want socially acceptable porn, you need widespread belief in fertility gods and goddesses.
 
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