WI:'Polish-German-Italian Commonwealth'/Holy Roman Empire

[kasumigenx]

And how is he doing that?

By having the Pope recognize it and also have the other countries recognize it and also have the nobility of Poland integrated to the HRE.

 

[alternatehistorian]

Yeah.

Taking Poland into the empire might be problematic given all the other things the emperors are trying to do, but otherwise . . .

Yes, especially when Poland's ruler doesn't want to be a vassal.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

IF the PLC had a Hapsburg as the King of Poland, that could certainly be accomplished. Although with a Hapsburg as King of Poland, you might as well have the Radziwills accomplish their goal of breaking the PLC apart.

 

[Elfwine]

IF the PLC had a Hapsburg as the King of Poland, that could certainly be accomplished. Although with a Hapsburg as King of Poland, you might as well have the Radziwills accomplish their goal of breaking the PLC apart.

A Hapsburg as king of Poland does not equal Poland being part of the HRE, however.

Hungary was ruled by a Habsburg. Didn't become part of the HRE even in name.

So you need something that, y'know, actually brings it in.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

That could be the biggest challenge yet. Also, having an enlarged HRE would simply drive Russia (assuming Poland is a part of the HRE), Sweden and England into a tight embrace, or am I wrong on this part?

 

[Elfwine]

That could be the biggest challenge yet. Also, having an enlarged HRE would simply drive Russia (assuming Poland is a part of the HRE), Sweden and England into a tight embrace, or am I wrong on this part?

Depends on the strength of the HRE. In this scenario? Probably not.

The Habsburgs look more threatening on paper than they really are.