I see what you mean, although I'm not sure the Oder Quad was built. I've this US document referencing it 'a series of deep and modern fortifications...' but also another reference saying it was started in 1934 and then stopped. Possibly a bit of bluff like the West Wall?One of the big problems will be the Oder Quadrilateral, a series of deep and modern fortifications along the direct approach to Berlin. I can easily imagine the Polish Army (in a scenario where Poland is allied to Czechoslovakia and France) occupying East Prussia, Eastern Pomerania, and Silesia (with Breslau cut off and besieged), but the war would likely end in a coup against Hitler before the Poles can pivot against Berlin from the north or south.
I'll have to do a Hitler Rant where Steiner is lost because he can't find the quadrilateral on the map and then Hitler loses his shit because the Alien Space Bats are helping the Poles.You would need to essentially Morgenthau Germany to get a Polish occupation of Berlin (to be renamed Berlinsk, or perhaps Rydzgrod or Pilsudskowo), but given the apathy of the French and British in 1939, that’s near-ASB.
This is a nice picture.
My impression was the Oder Quadrilateral was a system of trenches.
Thankyou - I'm dabbling in Photoshop again after a long gap.This is a nice picture.
But i do wonder if these Polish tanks would be able to beat Germans tanks in combat.Thankyou - I'm dabbling in Photoshop again after a long gap.
I agree, the tankettes were outmoded by 1939. I couldn’t find 7tp tanks at the right angle. There are photos of destroyed Panzers from Poland. The Germans didn’t have it all their own way.But i do wonder if these Polish tanks would be able to beat Germans tanks in combat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Roman_OrlikI agree, the tankettes were outmoded by 1939. I couldn’t find 7tp tanks at the right angle. There are photos of destroyed Panzers from Poland. The Germans didn’t have it all their own way.
Well you could always Photoshop the Soviet capturing the Reichstag into the Polish capture the Reichstag.I agree, the tankettes were outmoded by 1939. I couldn’t find 7tp tanks at the right angle. There are photos of destroyed Panzers from Poland. The Germans didn’t have it all their own way.
But i do wonder if these Polish tanks would be able to beat Germans tanks in combat.
The propaganda of the time describes 'Maginot Line style' but the main defences seem to be C and D type pill boxes, the terrain and the rivers.
Plans actually called for the creation of the 'Oder Quadrilaeteral', which included the OWB (Oder-Warthe Bend) line, the Netze River on the north side, and the Oder River on the south side. However, few fortifications were actually built, but both river lines were defensible. The West side of the Oder Bridgehead only gained water defences in the form of the Oder and the old fortress of Kustrin in the northwest corner.
The Forts and Fortifications of Europe 1815-1945: The Central States ...
By J.E. Kaufmann, H.W. Kaufmann
ISTR Berlin has a Slavic etymology?You would need to essentially Morgenthau Germany to get a Polish occupation of Berlin (to be renamed Berlinsk, or perhaps Rydzgrod or Pilsudskowo), but given the apathy of the French and British in 1939, that’s near-ASB.
Plenty of towns in Poland have -lin ending in their names-Lublin, Dęblin, Modlin and so on.ISTR Berlin has a Slavic etymology?