ben0628
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What does this do to the Vicksburg campaign? Where is Butler?
Butterflied away unless Union has same otl success on the northern missippi.
Port Hudson Campaign never happens though
What does this do to the Vicksburg campaign? Where is Butler?
The reason the British at least viewed the Emancipation Proclamation as hypocritical was that it was spun as a huge thing that was totally super-abolitionist, whereas most of the European press viewed it as being basically "you can't own slaves unless you're a Lincoln supporter".It wasn't. Full stop. Do more critical research, there's plenty of a print footprint about it.
I think we need to keep in mind a few things here if Beauregard gets command of New Orleans at the very beginning.
1) Fort Sumter is delayed/altered.
2) Bull Run has a different commander (Johnston only commanded Shedendoah forces).
3) Beauregard In charge of forces in Louisiana means Bragg starts out with a different military position.
4) Shiloh is butterflied.
Agree on # 4.
The POD allows for Beauregard to be put in charge of New Orleans after the Sumter bombardment, after the war has started. There is enough time.
JE Johnston was senior to Beauregard and was the overall commander at Bull Run/ Manassas. Since he arrived on the battlefield late, he mostly deferred to Beauregard. But he did make one intervention that turned out to be critical. Beauregard wound up getting the credit for the win. The battle goes much the same way if Johnston is there from the start.
I don't see how where Bragg starts is relevant. Did he do anything really critical before Shiloh?
Bragg started the war in charge of New Orleans otl. In this scenario we have to move him.
Would this butterfly away Shiloh? It was Beauregard's idea, and amassing the army for the Shiloh attack weakened Confederate defenses throughout the West, including New Orleans.
This would definitely butterfly away Shiloh. Without that concentration, Confederate forces in Tennessee, northern Mississippi, and northern Alabama are probably defeated piecemeal and the Confederacy is cut in two along the rail lines instead of the Mississippi River. Beauregard would probably be tasked with trying to recover this, and once he and his troops are gone New Orleans would fall anyway.
So A.S. Johnston couldn't come up with the idea of massing the Confederate army in the west by himself? It doesn't seem like something that hard to figure out.
Let's say Johnston does and the Western Theater goes more or less the same but New Orleans under Beauregard isn't captured. This would mean Grant would have to go through both Vicksburg and Port Hudson to reach New Orleans and control the entire Mississippi (which would take until 1864 probably due to extra campaigns). How would this effect the Confederate war effort if the west was connected to the east for an extra year?
whereas most of the European press viewed it as being basically "you can't own slaves unless you're a Lincoln supporter".
AS Johnston was pretty out of his depth as a theater commander, the main impetus for the massing an army to attack Grant before he linked up with Buell came from Beauregard. Johnston might try it, but any delay means it won't happen before Buell joins Grant, plus without forces from New Orleans, Johnston would be badly outnumbered. This change will not delay the Confederacy being cut in two until 1864, it should cut the Confederacy in two a year early because all of the east-west rail lines in the Confederacy would probably be in Union control by summer of 1862. The fall of New Orleans would only slightly delayed until Beauregard and his troops are ordered north to try to reconnect the Confederacy. Vicksburg might actually fall sooner than in OTL.