WI: Othon de Bismarque

Ultima Ratio

EmptyChair said:
France doesn't need Prussia's success. Prussia, with its divided territories, geographical vulnerability, weak Navy and relatively low population, was hanging somewhere between being a great power and not being one - and through Bismark's actions (among other things) rose to actual undisputed great power by uniting most of Germans into one state. France doesn't need to do this dramatic jump - France has been already consolidated the way divided German states weren't. Bismark-Era France needs peace at home, divided Germany in the East and maybe some counterbalance for British influence overseas. It does not need to double or triple its territory.

So if Bismark can placate the people with something akin to his Sozialgesetze, keep southern German states from rallying to Prussian banner and cobble a coalition together with southern Germans/Austria against Prussia and avoid pitfalls like his anti-Catholic campaign - he can save France without anyone noticing, so to speak.
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Exactly. France just needs to keep the status quo in Germany and slowly build up to be the undisputed master of the continent, without having major wars like Napoleon did. That, and a navy that rivals Britain by the early 20th century.
 

Jan Olbracht

Augenis said:
Polish should be like "Biszmarkowski", right?
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I think Polish Bismarck would just stay Bismarck, German surnames are not uncommon in Poland and don't sound that much alien. If Polish Bismarck really wants to have Polish sounding name he would polonize it as something like "Bismarski".

EDIT: And for his role in Poland-I see him as more competent version of Count Aleksander Wielopolski.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksander_Wielopolski
 
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Jürgen

If Bismarck ended up in Congress Poland or Lithuania, he would end up in service to the Czar, not as a Polish or Lithuanian revolutionary.
 

mrmandias

Spanish Bismarck would be De Bismarca. Possibly De Bismarque. I judge De la Marca Episcopal, o De la Marca del Obispo to be unlikely.
 
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