WI: No trail of tears

With a PoD as late as possible which impacts as little of the rest of OTL as possible, prevent the trail of tears and keep the five civilized tribes on their lands.

Now if you manage to do that, discuss the various butterflies that come about.

If an OTL like civil war happens, how would the tribes play into the whole thing? Side with the union and perhaps get rewarded with a State post war?
 
well I'll give it it a shot Andrew Jackson gets elected the first time and ether agrees to only run that first time as part of a bargain with the House or he abolishes the BUS by executive order causing an early depression and clay wins in a proto-Whig party if there is still a civil war like otl's then the southern tribes would side with the south like otl but the northern with the union
 
were alabama and mississippi states yet. i don't think they were, and im fairly certain florida wasn't. i bet the south would be willing to use them as leverage to make more slave states out of the State of Cherokee, the State of Muscogee, the State of Choktaw, the State of Chickasaw. BALKANIZE THE SOUTH!!!!!:cool:
 

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were alabama and mississippi states yet. i don't think they were, and im fairly certain florida wasn't. i bet the south would be willing to use them as leverage to make more slave states out of the State of Cherokee, the State of Muscogee, the State of Choktaw, the State of Chickasaw. BALKANIZE THE SOUTH!!!!!:cool:
And we thought that the South had a monopoly in the Senate before...:eek:

That being said, the tribes staying put butterflies the hell out of the South.
 
And we thought that the South had a monopoly in the Senate before...:eek:

That being said, the tribes staying put butterflies the hell out of the South.

it really does. you think it's annoying now hearing people say that they are 1/18th cherokee, well now they'll actually be cherokee! the south will probably be the most ethnically diverse part of the USA, between the whites, the blacks, the natives, the french in louisiana, and later on maybe hispanic immigrants from mexico and cuba.

we are talking about a hotbed of cultural exchange here, once the bigotry and racism subsides
 
Part of the agreement between Georgia and the Federal Government was that the Federal Gov't would support the ethnic cleansing if Georgia gave up their Alabama and Mississippi territory. So we could see a Georgia that stretches to the Mississippi river.
 
Part of the agreement between Georgia and the Federal Government was that the Federal Gov't would support the ethnic cleansing if Georgia gave up their Alabama and Mississippi territory. So we could see a Georgia that stretches to the Mississippi river.

ive never heard this. do you have a source?
 
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