WI no Stalin/Tito split?

WarBastard

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Let's say until Stalin's death, Tito managed to maintain a working relationship with him. Bulgaria and Albania had been absorbed, and talks on joining the Warsaw Pact were ongoing.

How might things proceed once Khruschev took over? A greater Yugloslavia could have been a powerful nation.
 
Let's say until Stalin's death, Tito managed to maintain a working relationship with him. Bulgaria and Albania had been absorbed, and talks on joining the Warsaw Pact were ongoing.

How might things proceed once Khruschev took over? A greater Yugloslavia could have been a powerful nation.

Well for one thing the italian north-west border will rensemble even more a total military zone with Warsaw Pact troops directly face it, so maybe the other NATO member (aka USA) will press for a more modern and great armed forces, lift sooner the WWII peace treaty limitations and the problem of Trieste will be of some magnitude greater.
But the real problem will be in the 90 when Yugoslavia after the fall of communism will break up, now we have a even greater civil war with Albania tring to keep Kosovo and Bulgaria tring to take Macedonia with her, a move who can upset Greece...it will be interesting in the 'Oh Boy' sense
 
Well, depends on POD. I think best way would be for yugoslav partisans to be less successful, needing greater soviet help. With that Tito has less of a free hand after the war (let's ignore the butterflies greater soviet focus in Balakns would mean for German front).

Or there is no disagreement over Greece, more likely Tito doesn't back communists that Stalin doing it. Albania might be absorbed, not sure about Bolgaria.

Anyway, if Yugoslavia joins WarPac SU gains warms sea port outside Black Sea which is connected to it via land route. Greater militarization of NATO southern flank (Italy, Greece) and greater US, British and/or French presence there (thoughlikely limited to US only). Maybe greater effort to keep tensions between Greece and Turkey to minimum as to not disrupt things. Greater soviet naval presence in Med (would have effect on Arab-Israeli conflict). Maybe Egypt allows SU naval basing potentially butterflying 1956 war or making it very different?

After the fall of communism things get interesting. if Albania is absorbed Albanians may want more rights or outright independance, assuming Kosovo and Albania are merged into one unit/republic. As far as Slavs are concerned, maybe hated/resented soviet presence is seen as a unifier, making them common enemy. Once they are gone Yugoslavia either breaks up smoothly (CSSR style) or is transformed into looser federation.
 
I don't think Serbia's present relationship with Russia bears that out. Nor does Bulgaria's, for that matter

Here situation would be different. You'd have Soviet liberation,soviet presence and SU using Yugoslavia as a springboard for their policy. These would likely change Serbian outlook on Russia/SU
 

WarBastard

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Here situation would be different. You'd have Soviet liberation,soviet presence and SU using Yugoslavia as a springboard for their policy. These would likely change Serbian outlook on Russia/SU

Even though 40 years of mutual hostility didn't? I don't buy it... I wonder how this might have affected Austria too. Yugoslavia in this state would likely have a pretty powerful military
 
Even though 40 years of mutual hostility didn't? I don't buy it... I wonder how this might have affected Austria too. Yugoslavia in this state would likely have a pretty powerful military

Well, there was no hostility during Cold war to speak of. Yugoslavia remained communist, SU was principal arms supplier, strong economic ties etc. Therewere disagreementssure but after initial souring of relations both sides recognized where other one is coming from.
 
If there is no Stalin/Tito split, how does the fate of Trieste change?

Depends on the PoD, really. If assuming worse Yugoslav performance (and, thus, more Yugoslav bonds to Moscow) than OTL, it's possible that the entire area (or most of it) winds up under Italy. If the PoD is after Stalin's death, the project is pretty much dead already (it went bust in 1954, Stalin only died a year earlier). It might work only if the PoD is around the end of the war or immediately after it.

At this point, it depends whether the Soviets find it more advantageous as a buffer or not. OTL, the Governor of Trieste was to administer the area as a UN protectorate, but the two nations (Italy and Yugoslavia) needed to agree on the person to do it. OTL, they didn't so the Territory sort of languished in limbo for awhile before being torn up.

With Soviets pressuring Belgrade, you might get a compromise candidate and have the state survive as a buffer.
 
I don't see Tito actually taking any orders from the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact. Yugoslavia was no-ones puppet during Tito's reign, the reason why Tito started the Non-Aligned-Movement.

If Yugoslavia did manage to repair relations and the Tito-Stalin split did not happen the Yugoslav State would of been in an extremely powerful position. I also see the Yugoslav state existing after the fall of the Soviet Union seeing as the governments of Bulgaria and partly Albania would have had a greater scheme of succession then Tito's Yugoslavia.
 
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