What if he had got away with his relationship with Prostitutes? Could he have been more significant?
What if he had got away with his relationship with Prostitutes? Could he have been more significant?
So he does it and doesn’t get caught? He isn’t going to pass any FBI background check so he’s out for any Cabinet appointment. If he keeps running for office and doesn’t change his behavior he is going to get caught eventually. The amount of money he was spending got his account flagged for potential fraud attempt. His bank reported the activity because they thought he was being targeted, ironically.
What if he had got away with his relationship with Prostitutes? Could he have been more significant?
If one politician actually had a set of balls and said “so what? how does this impact or relate to politics? What I do in my personal life as long as legal and voluntary who cares if I’m doing a good job???! You don’t have to like or agree with it but how about judge me on how I do my actual job instead of irrelevant or trivial nonsense. I’m not going to say names but You know how many politicians are likely doing same thing or cheating on their wives while their wives know and do same at times?”
If someone had balls to say that openly the media and elite might be surprised by how many Americans truly don’t care about that as long as economy is good and things are decent. Now if he was terrible at his job it would get brought up more because “work first, party second”. Can’t be banging hookers non stop if you aren’t doing your job well. If you are who cares.
The only sex scandals that will bring actual heat and probably hatred by Americans is rape and pedophilia. Anything voluntary they won’t truly care outside of media and politicians. Like Bill scandal which most of public thought was dumb and politicking in worse by republicans.
Now when accusations of rape and pedophilia came up that’s what actually made more especially on right or conservative sects to turn against him.
He wasn't Jerry Springer ( that become mayor after his own prostitution scandal too,) his was far more seriousIf one politician actually had a set of balls and said “so what? how does this impact or relate to politics? What I do in my personal life as long as legal and
However,If one politician actually had a set of balls and said “so what? how does this impact or relate to politics? What I do in my personal life as long as legal and voluntary who cares if I’m doing a good job???! You don’t have to like or agree with it but how about judge me on how I do my actual job . . .
True especially about hypocrite part, the only thing many democrats desire even more “anti Wall Street” want is expansion of public sector and bureaucracy. So they do often come off as hypocritical when they are often spoon fed daddy trust fund boys.The thing with Spitzer is that he was not only cheating on his wife, he was also breaking the law. We can debate whether prostitution should be legal (or at least decriminalized), but as a public servant Spitzer was obligated to abide by the law. He had spent the past ten years arguing that the financial services industry had to be held accountable for breaking the law, yet he too was breaking the law! I think to many people, his hypocrisy was more important than infidelity because it totally destroyed his "Sheriff of Wall St" image.
FWIW, Spitzer was never really the knight in shining armor that the media made him out to be. He used his father's vast fortune to finance his AG campaigns and then lied about it, which nearly cost him the 1998 race. As AG, while he made a lot of noise exposing corporate corruption he almost always settled instead of actually prosecuting the people responsible.
TrueHowever,
if you lose only 5% of the general public, that may be the difference between having a majority and not, right?
. . . As AG, while he made a lot of noise exposing corporate corruption he almost always settled instead of actually prosecuting the people responsible.
I’m just astonished we have such a negative view of the guy.“ . . . Spitzer isn’t a scalp-taker, as Rudy Giuliani was when he was a prosecutor. Spitzer doesn’t like taking cases to trial. Instead, he has devised a more powerful tactic: He exploits the threat of stock declines and business losses to force industries to change. . . ”
Regardless of your thoughts on more current events at least Giuliani help strike a huge blow to mafia. Spritzer is interesting in sense it’s one of last guys to get majorly discredited with both sides on boards and not trying to excuse or sugarcoat it.Spitzer rigorously enforced anti-prostitution laws as AG, and even upgraded prostitution from a Class A misdemeanor to a Class E felony while Governor. (It has since been downgraded to a Class B misdemeanor). In 2013 Jake Tapper said what many New Yorkers were thinking when he asked Spitzer how he could uphold the law when he himself was breaking it:.
And this is the problem with Spitzer. What mattered more than the adultery was that his....nocturnal activities shattered the image of the tough-minded law enforcer that made him popular to begin with.
FWIW I am attending Fordham University School of Law on the single highest merit aid award that the school gives to JD candidates. Yes, there are lawyers like Spitzer or Giuliani who lack integrity. But others like John Quincy Adams, Lincoln, RFK, Thurgood Marshall, RBG, etc use their status as lawyers to pursue justice and fight for the vulnerable. One reason that I am attending Fordham was that I was not interested in going to a school like BU where I'd probably end up working as a corporate lawyer in Boston, when at Fordham I have access to a large network of civil rights and arbitration firms that would give me the chance to practice a type of law that allows me to actually have a positive impact on those in need.
That is why i said was far more serious Jerry, at least jerry admit his mistake and own it, for Elliot was pure grade hypocresyAnd this is the problem with Spitzer. What mattered more than the adultery was that his....nocturnal activities shattered the image of the tough-minded law enforcer that made him popular to begin with.
For a more favorable view . . .
Oct. 21, 2004:
How Eliot Spitzer got so powerful.
Eliot Spitzer, who is temperamentally unable to stay out of the headlines for more than 72 hours, is back in them again. Last week, the New York state...slate.com
I’m just astonished we have such a negative view of the guy.
I mean, who else went after Wall Street? ! We have a casino economy built on top of the real economy, where large-scale semi-fraud does make a big difference, and who has talked about this in a matter-of-fact way?
Stopping around 2011 to avoid current politics (ten years ago)
He did inspired a mediocre tv show in the good wife, so was something I guessSpitzer did accomplish a lot as AG. If you listen to him in interviews, he's a brilliant lawyer and he definitely has a razor sharp intellect. His problem was that he was a loose cannon with little self control. If he had cooperated with the legislature and not fooled around, he might have emerged as the leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. He might even be President now.
But that's why people don't like Spitzer. He's a historical "what if," who could've been President if not for his many failings. It's sad really....