WI: No Rothschild Funding in the Napoleon Wars

Mr.Stookey

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By the time the Europe was at war, the Rothschild family already had a massive fortune. From 1813-1815, Nathan Mayer Rothschild almost single-handedly financed the British War Effort. He sent bullion to the Duke of Welligton's armies around Europe.

In 1815 alone, the family almost $869 million in today's money in loans to Britain's allies.

They had a network of spies, allowing Nathan Rothschild to find out the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo before the Government did.

Afterwards, he later brought most of the Government Bond Market, and sold it in the post war boom.

What if the Rothschild family did not fund the British war effort? Could Napileon had won?
 

Anaxagoras

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This isn't true. The Rothschild bankers didn't fund the effort themselves; they funneled money from the British government to Britain's Continental allies. They were middlemen, not direct funders. Commissions they made doing this work helped establish the Rothschild fortune.
 
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The thing about conspiracy theories the current generation picks up is that people tend to ignore the fact they were initially begun due to antisemitism. Before the Illuminati-type/banks-run-the-world explanation, the fact is that the Rothschild conspiracy was an antisemitic conspiracy. The Rothschild's were Jews, and therefore the conspiracy logic was that they were trying to take control of the world and in fact controlled everything.
 

asgasgadgag

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The thing about conspiracy theories the current generation picks up is that people tend to ignore the fact they were initially begun due to antisemitism. Before the Illuminati-type/banks-run-the-world explanation, the fact is that the Rothschild conspiracy was an antisemitic conspiracy. The Rothschild's were Jews, and therefore the conspiracy logic was that they were trying to take control of the world and in fact controlled everything.

True, I have to wonder about this guy though since in a previous thread discussing the possibility of no Israeli state (a perfectly legitimate and interesting topic on it's own) his suggestion was to have a POD be more Russian Jews getting killed. That combined with promoting a long debunked myth just sets off red flags about this guy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3e_1388690125
 
True, I have to wonder about this guy though since in a previous thread discussing the possibility of no Israeli state (a perfectly legitimate and interesting topic on it's own) his suggestion was to have a POD be more Russian Jews getting killed. That combined with promoting a long debunked myth just sets off red flags about this guy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3e_1388690125

Well I wasn't saying that to say he was antisemitic. I was saying the conspiracy was BS because it was begun as antisemitism, and then cleaned up later and the only part conspiracy people look at is the cleaned up version not noting that, if you look at its origin, since antisemitism is BS, clearly it is as well.
 
I don't know if the rothchilds funded this particular war but the question becomes valid if rephrased as if the British could not obtain outside funding would they have lost the war?
I think they would have. It has been postulated that one of the many reasons Russia lost the 1905 war with Japan was that most of the very large banks were in fact run by ethnic if not religious Jews who despised the Czar for his treatment of Jews in the Pale and took their revenge by denying him funding.If I recall correctly, he eventually got the money at usurious rates from an American bank run by an old money Protestant.
 

Mr.Stookey

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True, I have to wonder about this guy though since in a previous thread discussing the possibility of no Israeli state (a perfectly legitimate and interesting topic on it's own) his suggestion was to have a POD be more Russian Jews getting killed. That combined with promoting a long debunked myth just sets off red flags about this guy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3e_1388690125

Well I wasn't saying that to say he was antisemitic. I was saying the conspiracy was BS because it was begun as antisemitism, and then cleaned up later and the only part conspiracy people look at is the cleaned up version not noting that, if you look at its origin, since antisemitism is BS, clearly it is as well.

Agreed, I just have to wonder looking at the combination of topics he's posted so far.

I'm not anti-Semitic in anyway. I am part Jewish, and I apologize for appearing that way. I actually did think "Hey, my first few posts may ring some bells" but they were just a coridance.

But according Wikipedia, most of the British funding were from outside banks. I was wondering how the war would play out without the funding from the Rothschild family and other private banks.

My other thread is about American War Debt from mostly Dutch bankers
 

asgasgadgag

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I'm not anti-Semitic in anyway. I am part Jewish, and I apologize for appearing that way. I actually did think "Hey, my first few posts may ring some bells" but they were just a coridance.

But according Wikipedia, most of the British funding were from outside banks. I was wondering how the war would play out without the funding from the Rothschild family and other private banks.

My other thread is about American War Debt from mostly Dutch bankers

Understood, sorry to imply that you were.
 
But according Wikipedia, most of the British funding were from outside banks. I was wondering how the war would play out without the funding from the Rothschild family and other private banks.
Could you post a link to the page where it talks about the funding coming mainly from foreign, I'm assuming that's what you meant by 'outside', banks as I'd be interested to read it but am having no luck finding it myself. Thanks.
 
The thing about conspiracy theories the current generation picks up is that people tend to ignore the fact they were initially begun due to antisemitism. Before the Illuminati-type/banks-run-the-world explanation, the fact is that the Rothschild conspiracy was an antisemitic conspiracy. The Rothschild's were Jews, and therefore the conspiracy logic was that they were trying to take control of the world and in fact controlled everything.

Oh, I think most peddlers of conspiracy theories, be it about 9/11 or the situation in Ukraine, know full well the anti-Jewish implications they're making.
 
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