WI No Protestant Reformation in England?

What would England be like if Henry VIII never broke from the Roman Catholic Church? Henry VIII was highly critical of the Protestant Reformation (ecspecially Martin Luther-both of whom had a severe dislike of eachother).
If Henry VIII's religious convictions were stronger than his desire for a male hier (or any other respectable POD) how would the history of England turned out?
 
Depends. We can go for one of the following PoDs in my opinion:

-> Catherine of Aragon has a healthy male heir-I think this should be quite easy. OTL, Henry Duke of Cornwall died suddenly at the age of 1 month for reasons unrecorded. If we have him survive, then we have a male heir, can butterfly in a couple of the later children surviving also on the grounds that Catherine dosen't do so much religious fasting, and perhaps we have a family of 2 boys and 3 girls: Henry, Edward, Mary, Elizabeth and Catherine. This solves a huge amount of problems.
-> Catherine dies during one of the pregnancies- Henry can now remarry without a divorce.
-> The Pope grants Henry's divorce-tricky, but if Charles V isn't occupying Rome, it's possible.
-> Catherine gives in and assents to the divorce-highly unlikely, she was very proud.
-> Henry meets and falls in love with a devout Catholic rather than Anne who persuades him to wait for Catherine to die before they marry. They have several illegitimate children, and when Catherine dies in the early 1530s, marry and have a legitimate male heir.


Main effects are that without the monastary money, and the threat of invasion, the English navy develops later, but we might see earlier English colonies as protestants leave for America.
 
Depends. We can go for one of the following PoDs in my opinion:

-> Catherine of Aragon has a healthy male heir-I think this should be quite easy. OTL, Henry Duke of Cornwall died suddenly at the age of 1 month for reasons unrecorded. If we have him survive, then we have a male heir, can butterfly in a couple of the later children surviving also on the grounds that Catherine dosen't do so much religious fasting, and perhaps we have a family of 2 boys and 3 girls: Henry, Edward, Mary, Elizabeth and Catherine. This solves a huge amount of problems.
-> Catherine dies during one of the pregnancies- Henry can now remarry without a divorce.
-> The Pope grants Henry's divorce-tricky, but if Charles V isn't occupying Rome, it's possible.
-> Catherine gives in and assents to the divorce-highly unlikely, she was very proud.
-> Henry meets and falls in love with a devout Catholic rather than Anne who persuades him to wait for Catherine to die before they marry. They have several illegitimate children, and when Catherine dies in the early 1530s, marry and have a legitimate male heir.


Main effects are that without the monastary money, and the threat of invasion, the English navy develops later, but we might see earlier English colonies as protestants leave for America.

Re the bolded point you could have the Beauforts all over agaiin, with retro-legitimation. It would be illogical to have the 3 elder kids out of the line of succession and the younger 2 in it. Now that would be an issue for civil war!

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Grey Wolf
 
What would England be like if Henry VIII never broke from the Roman Catholic Church? Henry VIII was highly critical of the Protestant Reformation (ecspecially Martin Luther-both of whom had a severe dislike of eachother).
If Henry VIII's religious convictions were stronger than his desire for a male hier (or any other respectable POD) how would the history of England turned out?

The Reformation might seem to be in retrospect a German upsplurging, like how the Hussies are accorded with Bohemia

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Grey Wolf
 
The Reformation might seem to be in retrospect a German upsplurging, like how the Hussies are accorded with Bohemia

IIRC, by the time of Henry VIII the Reformation had already spread from the German states across continental Europe, and had taken a strong hold in the neighboring areas of Switzerland and Hungary. Scandinavia also very swiftly turned to Protestantism, with Sweden adopting it over Catholicism in 1536 - the same year as the official Reformation in England.

So, without a Church of England, perhaps we see protestantism more-so as an 'eastern' heresy, much in the way that the Orthodox church is regarding IOTL.
 
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