WI: No Petain?

world

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kellineil, yes, but I fear I may seizing too much of the fun for myself and would not want to appear selfish.:eek:


world, I see your tradition of ignoring a vast body of work to select the one small bit which fits your position continues. I'll admit that basing your position on a work of alternate history fiction is novel...:D

A very detailed one it seems with a huge list of forces available to both sides.
 
One which shows a state of affairs in the Med that consistently has absolutely nothing in common with what you have predicted but I'm sure that part doesn't count.
 

world

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One which shows a state of affairs in the Med that consistently has absolutely nothing in common with what you have predicted but I'm sure that part doesn't count.

Mmm it shows superior Axis airpower, French defeat of the invasion of Libya, allied invasion of Sardinia and Corsica seen pretty much as ASB.
I would say thats pretty accurate.
 
Allied conquest of Libya, extended and costly campaign to take Corsica, Allied successful invasion of Sardinia(highly dubious) in 1940, no successful Axis action in North Africa or the Middle East or the Med, first German invasion of Greece in 1941 defeated, successful Allied landings in Greece before the US can even become involved, Turkey leaning to the Allies...claiming you've considered any of that to be plausible moves you beyond possible ignorance to deliberate dishonesty.
 

world

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Allied conquest of Libya, extended and costly campaign to take Corsica, Allied successful invasion of Sardinia(highly dubious) in 1940, no successful Axis action in North Africa or the Middle East or the Med, first German invasion of Greece in 1941 defeated, successful Allied landings in Greece before the US can even become involved, Turkey leaning to the Allies...claiming you've considered any of that to be plausible moves you beyond possible ignorance to deliberate dishonesty.

:D...................
 

world

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Have you any idea how many divisions Germany had in Eastern Europe that could be used against the British, Greeks and French if the British and French landed in Greece?
 
Have you any idea how many divisions Germany had in Eastern Europe that could be used against the British, Greeks and French if the British and French landed in Greece?

A real war is not a game of Hearts of Iron II or any similar wargame where you can move entire armies and entire airforces at whim on a map!
 

Bearcat

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A real war is not a game of Hearts of Iron II or any similar wargame where you can move entire armies and entire airforces at whim on a map!

Which is hilarious, because that's exactly what Adolph thought it was, towards the end. Complete with entirely imaginary units.
 

world

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Thats right it is a real war and the allies cant move a hundred divisions in to the Balkans to take Greece in 1941 or storm in Southern Italy with a force of much the same.
Lets stick to the facts and figures and the forces and logistical lift available.
 
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