So WI India is not split into Pakistan and India. WI it remains unified. OTL Partition was the wort thing possible. At the time what was pakistan was majority hindu but with partition were forced to leave. Likewise muslims made up large numbers in areas like Hyrderabad and so on. So is it possible to prevent partition so that the population transfer never happens. And if so what is he polotics of the Independant single state called India. How does this affect world develpments.
WI no partition of India
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Umm. most of Pakistan was majority Muslim. That's why they made it there. To avoid partition, Jinnah's 14 Points would need to be approved, and it would be even easier with the removal of Gandhi.
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As Trollhole said, they areas selected to form Pakistan were majority Muslim. There was a very large minority of Non-Muslim; Hindus, Sikhs and others and in some areas the majority was marginal. It is also significant that even after partition and the enormously large movement of peoples in both directions between the two fledgling nations, more Muslims still ended up living in India than Pakistan.
We had this thread recently regarding the subject:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=170211&highlight=india
Oh I see sorry its just that in some books people say in places like Sindh most were Hndu. ABout that thread... Wow didnt notice it.
Now, if we had a united India, I could see a play being made to give protectorate status to Nepal and Bhutan, similar to Sikkim, so perhaps, they would also join, but the clearest difference would be that the country would be closely aligned with Britain and the States during the Cold War, rather than with the Soviet Union, as Jinnah was quite against Nehru's failed Fabian Socialism gambit.
Sindh was mostly Muslim. The city of Lahore, in Punjab, however, was pretty much evenly divided, with 600 000 Muslims, 100 000 Sikhs, and 500 000 Hindus.
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The Nehru-Ghandi clan did have a detrimental effect of India’s democracy and development.
Oh I see. Well about the other thread it is a year old.
Anyway I believe no partition could work only if Nehru does not take power. Seriously the Gandhis were the worst people to lead India dont you agree. I mean look at how they brainwashed a whole generation of people. Embezeled a ton of money from India to swiss banks.. Used money to bribe people for votes. Nearly created dictatorships. Yeah I feel the Gandhis are what screwed up India.
Anyway rant aside if Nehru were to die or never take power maybe a compromise could take place. Jinnah was for a compromise till the end. Got any ideas?
We would we see an Indian regional power on the current level deceades sooner I would think. Maybe all of the jobs that OTL went to China go to India.
Yeah, it depends which Nehru you're talking about.
If Motilal Nehru and Jinnah somehow negotiated Dominion status for the Raj in the 1910s, then we would have a united, Capitalist India. Also, we would have to get rid of Gandhi. He was the trigger that pushed Jinnah away towards the Pakistan movement.Agreed. Nehru as in Nehru the head of INC. So what happens if Motilal Nehru and Jinah agreed to the compromise how powerful would the state be in 1950s I ean with Pakistan and India combined we could have a massive change in world events.Yeah, it depends which Nehru you're talking about.
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I think you're getting confused between Jawarharlal Nehru, father of Indira Gandhi and grandfather of Rajiv, and Mohandas Gandhi, largely called Mahatma Gandhi.
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Most people do.
That isn’t a crack either. Most people literally do think they are directly related to the Mahatma.
I am aware of that. Ol' Indira got her husband to change his name from Gandhy to Gandhi to basically gain political leverage.
Sorry about that. I never said Nehru was related to Gandhi. I thought his last name was Gandhi because that was what his grandaughter was called. Sorry about misunderstanding will fix. But you knnow which personright the head of the INC.
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Ol' Indira got her husband to change his name from Gandhy to Gandhi to basically gain political leverage.
That’s probably the least shonky thing that woman ever did.
Ever heard of her emergency act or jailing anyone who protested against the government
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Ever heard of her emergency act or jailing anyone who protested against the government
That’s why I said least.