WI: No Japanese Invasion of China?

The problem is that, in Japan, the tail wagged the dog. Either the IJA or IJN could bring down the government at will, making the military the rulers, not the civilian leadership, the true power in the nation. Beyond that, you had the Kwantung Army, which was the power inside the Army, and was established in the wake of 1894. There is more than a little evidence that the Kwantung commanders went after Manchuria AND China without orders, even from the Army HQ and even went after the Soviets on their own. That is the tip of the tail wagging the dog.
Nope, the Kwangtung Garrison was established in 1906 following the Japanese victory in the Russo-Japanese war, which allowed them to regain control over the Kwantung territory in China. However, the Kwangtung Army was established in 1919, and the power and control that you mentioned developed a few years after that. A non-China obsessed Japan could easily develop with a pre 1910 POD.

hmmm, slightly off topic but- just today read a book on History's most popular lies- which included a chapter exposing the myth that Mao & the Communists were the force most responsible for defeating Japan in China- which was shown as being completely false due to the fact that Mao actually spent the vast majority of his time simply marshalling the strength of his Communist forces in his remote corner of China while attempting as much as poss to avoid direct conflict with Jap forces- which led Chiang's Nationalist forces to engage in the bulk of the fighting against the IJA. Mao also used propaganda during & after WWII to portray Chiang as grossly corrupt, inefficient & incompetent (which was partially true) who didn't do much to fight the Japs (which wasn't)- which also was uncritically accepted by US leaders such as Vinegar Joe Stilwell & even Pres Truman, who cut back on support of the Nationalists after 1945. The big WI asked was of course, if the US had still stood strongly behind the Nationalists after the war, whether China would've avoided falling to the Communists in 1949, with the resultant effects of a strong US ally in East Asia, no debilitating wars in Korea & Vietnam, no annexation of Tibet, & no massive man-made disasters in PRC such as the Great Leap Forward.

in support:
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/13999.html
Seriously, what's up with this board and all the racial slurs? Last time I checked it's been 70 years since WWII.
 
Nope, the Kwangtung Garrison was established in 1906 following the Japanese victory in the Russo-Japanese war, which allowed them to regain control over the Kwantung territory in China. However, the Kwangtung Army was established in 1919, and the power and control that you mentioned developed a few years after that. A non-China obsessed Japan could easily develop with a pre 1910 POD.


Seriously, what's up with this board and all the racial slurs? Last time I checked it's been 70 years since WWII.

They might not be intended as such, even if that is the orthodox view on using that term to describe Japanese, for what it is worth
 
There is a difference between the Japanese of today that are a Friend and Ally, and the Japs that attacked us in 1941.
 
?Is there any way that China can win [or not lose] the 1935 War of the Wall.?
Following the War the Border was set at the Great Wall, with a 100 Mile Demilitarized [Chinese] zone south of the Wall.
If the Demilitarized zone was north of the Wall applying to the Japanese, whe may not have the 1936 invasion.
 
They might not be intended as such, even if that is the orthodox view on using that term to describe Japanese, for what it is worth
A lot of people used to use the n-word for Blacks and c-word for Chinese. But I guess it's okay because it's all "orthodox" right? Who cares if it's widely seen as a racial slur and offensive, right?
 
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