WI No Freud

What if, around 1897,* Sigmund Freud died of a heart attack? (OTL, UIAM, he had some real health issues after the death of his father, so it's not a stretch.)

How is pscychotheraphy affected? The careers and ideas of Freud's OTL "disciples", like Jung and Alder? What I'm especially in is how the absence of Freud changes the culture of the early 20th Century, particulary regarding sex and gender -- is it possible ideas from the notion of the unconscious mind to the doxa of "normal heterosexuality" simply don't emerge or are radically different? And finally, what butterflies might emerge from all this?

*I figured the PoD was late enough, the resulting TL would pretty much be a 20ty Century one

EDIT ADD: Given this thread playing out, an emphasis on sex here is hardly needed...
 
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I suppose that depends on whether or not you regard the unconscious mind itself as a social construct (not that I really know anything deep about that theory :eek:).
 
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Psychology is either a lot more convential, or off-the-fucking-wall insane.

Depends on whether in your mind something like Odepius Complex is just scratching the surface of the awesome complexities of the human mind, or if you feel that the fact someone even came up with it as a theory for human development shows just how fucked we are as a species.
 
Psychology is either a lot more convential, or off-the-fucking-wall insane.

Depends on whether in your mind something like Odepius Complex is just scratching the surface of the awesome complexities of the human mind, or if you feel that the fact someone even came up with it as a theory for human development shows just how fucked we are as a species.

Or it might have just been barking up the wrong tree; in that case, "more conventional" is a likely outcome.

Also, OP is altered...
 
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