WI: No DH Mosquito? What are the options going forward?


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What if the DH Mosquito was never designed or developed?

What would be the effects on the RAF and Allies air campaign due to this?
What would be the options going forward regarding other designs?
Would the Bristol Beafighter or Lockheed P-38 be capable of deputizing instead?

Much obliged!
 
I would have thought that the Hawker P1005 would be developed but they would have had to do something about the engines. Napier were being their usual efficient selves!
If it was developed then it would have filled the Mosquito role and was meant to be faster.
 
Possibly both given the Brigand is a slimmed down Buckingham. The Air Ministry needs both a light bomber/interdictor and a night fighter.
 
I'm thinking no Mosquito also means no Hornet.

I'm wondering if more work will be put into the Whirlwind even though it's a single-seater...
 

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What role(s) would be expected? As it developed, the Mosquito was a Jack-of-all-trades, Master-of-all - which was extraordinary. In this thought experiment, might it's alternative be one plane, or two?
 

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The Welkin suffered from the same issue as the Beaufighter in having wings too thick. The easier solution would be a thin wing Beaufighter. Not unakin to the Tempest being designed as a thin wing Typhoon/Tornado.
What was the relative thickness of the Brigand's wing? Maybe skip to an earlier thinn(er) winged Brigand?
 
The castrated Lightings were found to not be very useful, and twice the price of the Allison powered P-51
Lockheed shouldn't have been in the steer business. The British Air Ministry should not have refused turbocharged P-38s. With the turbochargers the P-38 was faster then the Mosquito at low and high altitudes. What would the price comparision be between the P-38 and the Mosquito is a better question. The RAF could have put a second crew member in the P-38 and used it in the nightfighter, intruder and Pathfinder roles that were filled by the Mosquito in OTL. Along with all the other uses the Mosquito did in OTL.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I love the Lightning, but I don't think it would be a likely candidate for Mossy replacement in the eyes of the Air Ministry unless they are strictly looking for something in the Heavy fighter role. The Mosquito was a fast/light bomber, first and foremost, and was well adapted to other roles; the P-38 was a Fighter/Interceptor first and was then adapted in other directions. They both crossed over into being superlative pathfinder and recce platforms and although the P-38 was a good tactical bomber/CAS platform and was adequate as a night fighter later in the war the load over range capabilities (as well as the multi-seat configuration) of the Mossy made it the better bomber and night fighter. If the RAF wanted a true replacement for the light bomber / multirole airframe I think the Douglas A-20 (P-70 as Night Fighter) is the most likely American platform to adopt, later followed by the A-26--but neither of those make effective fighters and they are both considerably slower than the Mosquito, so there's a trade-off.

I just don't see any other allied plane that could realistically be fielded by 1942/43 even that could offer a true replacement for the Mosquito. The P-38 is the only one that comes close but they would have to give up rage for payload on bombing raids.
 
Twin Spitfire would be a good option.

 
What if the DH Mosquito was never designed or developed?

OMG! a disaster. The Mossie is fantastic. But hang on, what's that you say? Whirlwind? Westland Whirlwind? ( for pure bombing you are going to have to build more Lancasters and just slug it out)

Surely the real question is should the RAF had built MORE Mosquitos rather than heavy bombers?
 
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