WI: No atomic bomb & Operation Unthinkable

What if Japan had not surrendered and the Allies decided to attack the Soviet Union planned unthinkable !

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Really not a good idea. The WAllies has sane leaders well aware of the adages about two-front wars and land wars in Asia.
 

Wendigo

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The WAllies would be too busy defeating the Soviets to be able to start Operation Downfall anytime soon so in the meantime Japan would be faced with the blockade of Operation Starvation.

Millions of Japanese starve to death or die from disease, exposure etc.
 
Unthinkable (I am using the plan name here as a by word for any war with the Soviets in immediate postwar Europe, not the actual contingency plan) would have happened only in guise of a major diplomatic crisis with the Soviets involving the plans for postwar Europe. For that to happen, Stalin would need to act very differently then he did IOTL. He'd have to believe that 1) there would be no economic crisis in the West postwar (this is what he assumed would happen), and 2) that any kind of postwar cooperation was impossible. It would involve replacing 1945 Stalin with 1949 Stalin, and therefore deciding that he'd have to use his military advantage at that time if the West did not play ball with him.

I can't conceive of anyway where the Western Allies would attack Stalin unprovoked. The decision was already made by summer 1945 to abandon Poland to its fate. No one was going to start a Third World War over it especially given the relative strength of forces.
 
and therefore deciding that he'd have to use his military advantage at that time if the West did not play ball with him.

"military advantage".

The fact that the allies,especially the USA,were pretty much unscathed manpower wise while the red army was on its absolute last legs after Berlin was taken is probably known to him. It would be an extreme gamble,not the kind of thing Stalin likes.
 
What if Japan had not surrendered and the Allies decided to attack the Soviet Union planned unthinkable !

800px-Allied_army_positions_on_10_May_1945.png

pacwar.gif

Yeah in Europe the Soviets outnumbered the allied troops 5:1 IIRC, no way that would be a good idea. Only Churchill thought it was a good idea untill he saw the numbers.

Also, why show a 1942 map of Japanese territory? You should show the 1945 map right before the atomic bombings, because thats the Japan that doesn't surrender. And it would be invaded by both the Americans and the Soviets.
 
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