How would UK politics look if George V didn't threaten to pack the Lords to end the Tory filibuster? How would the UK develop, would there be more PMs from the Lords?
I honestly don't think that they could stop it forever. Campaigning to restrict the power of the House of Lords was one of the major reasons why the Labour Party rose to relative prominence.How would UK politics look if George V didn't threaten to pack the Lords to end the Tory filibuster? How would the UK develop, would there be more PMs from the Lords?
What's the most diluted Act that could survive today?
RogueBeaver said:Could there still be a PM with senior Cabinet from the Lords? Would it mean in effect two Prime Ministers- the DPM/Lord President in the Commons and the PM him/herself in the Lords?
TL research question: Can a hereditary peer remain in the Lords as a Cabinet member, disclaim his peerage while PM like Home did in being downgraded to "Sir", then reclaim it after his term is up? What are the rules around that?
How would UK politics look if George V didn't threaten to pack the Lords to end the Tory filibuster? How would the UK develop, would there be more PMs from the Lords?
That could be used for Rovian purposes in a minority situation, like Trudeau did in 1974...Or like the PM is trying to do right now.
That would be interesting, because the Queen is completely neutral, since GGs are appointed by the PM. They wouldn't do that because it would severely damage the Queen and everyone involved.
The Loans Affair, also called the Khemlani Affair, is the name given to the political scandal involving the Whitlam Government of Australia in 1975, in which it was accused of attempting to illegally borrow money from Middle Eastern countries by bypassing standard procedure as dictated by the Australian Treasury.
The Minister for Minerals and Energy, Rex Connor, Treasurer Dr. Jim Cairns, and others, were prime identities in the scandal.
Hey, you never know with the Queen - here's the cause of "The Dismissal", according to the Genocide:
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The Loans Affair, also called the Khemlani Affair, is the name given to the political scandal involving the Whitlam Government of Australia in 1975, in which it was accused of attempting to illegally borrow money from Middle Eastern countries by bypassing standard procedure as dictated by the Australian Treasury.
The Minister for Minerals and Energy, Rex Connor, Treasurer Dr. Jim Cairns, and others, were prime identities in the scandal.
Sound familiar?
Urgh, the idea that the Dismissal was a direct result of the loans affair is an (old, old) conservative conceit. (Are you sure you were born in 1988, Dan1988? Most apologia for the Dismissal these days focuses on the general incompetence of the Whitlam govt., and tries not to go into too much detail about why 'Kerr was right'.)
Sorry about that.Guess someone will have to fix the Genocide, 'cause that's what's written in that article.
The main wikipedia page that details the events surrounding the dismissal of the Whitlam government is actually quite passable--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_constitutional_crisis_of_1975.
You were relying on this article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loans_Affair, which isn't a bad article. It's just not a very good summation of why & how the governor general exercised his reserve powers.
How would UK politics look if George V didn't threaten to pack the Lords to end the Tory filibuster? How would the UK develop, would there be more PMs from the Lords?
That's why they should appoint constitutional scholars as GG, or at least have one on staff. Didn't Kerr also get advice from the Chief Justice? How do today's experts view it?