WI:Nixon wins 1960, who is Democratic nominee in 1964?

Who can be a Democrat Nominee in 1964 presidential Elections?


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So, if Tricky Dick wins 1960, who can be a Democrat nominee for 1964?
Yours ,Pingvin99
P.S. I'm a GOP supprorter, but if I was Democrat my vote would go to Wallace.
P.P.S. You should reason it thread why you vote for that candidate.
 
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Why on earth would you vote for Wallace?

In that era a non-incumbent Southerner could not be nominated, so LBJ is eliminated. Wallace wouldn't make a serious run in '64, he had just been inaugurated governor in January '63. So that leaves a rerun of '60 where JFK is nominated again, which is unusual for the Dems, who apart from Stevenson have shunned retread candidates in the 20th century. RFK is a political figure with a national reputation from the '50s but he hasn't yet been elected to public office. In 1961 he moves to NY, his home state, and runs against Javits in '62 or for state AG as a prelude to challenging either Keating in '64 or Rocky in '66, with Keating being a softer target. In either case he can't run until '68 at the earliest.

I vote JFK, obviously, even as a GOP supporter.
 
Well, I voted for Wallace as a joke.
Hot news from 1964 RNC: Incubment President Richard M.Nixon and Vice-President Nelson Rockfeller we're renominated without any opposition.
I'm using my president list from "Lists of alternate Presidents and PMs" , so Stevenson was a POTUS in 1953-1961, and Stevenson is not Grover Cleveland.:rolleyes:
 
Rocky would never consent to be Nixon's VP, nor would Nixon want him: it would be too uncomfortable for both of them.
 
Also, a 1960 Nixon Presidency would create several major butterflies. It is likely that the war against Castro that was in the works in the later Eisenhower administration would go forward, but with a greater direct US military involvement from the start. This means (probably) no Bay of Pigs fiasco, but much greater tensions with the USSR. Khruschev was not about to go to war with the US over a minor and fairly new client, but would certainly find some way to strike back through a proxy, possibly in the Middle East or Latin America. There would be no Cuban Missile Crisis, but there might be an ongoing guerrilla war in the hills of Cuba for some time to come.

Second, Nixon might have handled Viet Nam differently post 1964. Ike and MacArthur would both have advised against a massive intervention, but the war might have developed as IOTL. Certainly Nixon proved in 1972 that he was quite willing to take steps against the North that LBJ never did. So Nixon might have had a couple of political-military issues that would have reduced his popularity in a second term, but probably would have had a fairly successful first.

As for Democratic nominees in 1964, maybe Stu Symington or Pat Brown.
 
I vote JFK, obviously, even as a GOP supporter.

Why "obviously"?

Why would JFK take on an incumbent POTUS when he is easily young enough to wait for 1968, by which time, with any luck, the Republicans will have worn out their welcome? It's the sort of thing Adlai would do (and did) but not a son of old Joe.

In this era, the reaction of both parties to narrow defeats was to move away from the political centre, with defeated Republicans swinging to Goldwater, and defeated Democrats to McGovern. TTL, that probably points to Humphrey, who still had something of a "dangerous radical" reputation at that time. Nixon coasts to victory much as LBJ did OTL.
 
To be fair, I think Roguebeaver means that Kennedy is his personal favorite of the candidates presented, which only means that he personally prefers Kennedy to Humphrey, and there's a difference between asserting such a preference and claiming that Kennedy would be a likely candidate in 1964.
 
IOTL JFK would not have run again for health and family reasons, the goal was to line up Bobby for somewhere between '68 and '80. So he likely would not have run again period, let alone '64. I've explained elsewhere that without Kraus and Burkley's regimen, neither of whom he would have met had he not been POTUS, he'd have been in a wheelchair by 1970 with almost zero chance of living to 1990. So he doesn't run again regardless.
 
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