WI: Napoléon Marries Auguste Amalie of Bavaria?

So, maybe Carolina has a heart-attack when the embassy arrives? I'd imagine it was sometime in 1804-1806 or so, around about the same time that her siblings (the duchess of Parma (1804), Archduke Ferdinand (1806) died. Archduke Maximilian died in 1801 (and he and Ferdinand were both younger than her) died. She was the last of Maria Theresia's children to die, so if we take a decade off her life and let her die in 1805, then will King Nosey agree? And how would this affect Eugène's prospects in Italy? Would he get the Neapolitan crown rather than Joseph Bonaparte/Murat? I could see that being an awkward moment if the Bonapartes think that now Josèphine's dead, her kids are no longer Nappy's proteges.
The Bonaparte would be totally wrong thinking that... If Eugène marry Maria Amalia of Naples will be put as King of Naples as replacement of Joseph (or maybe directly as replacement of his father-in-law)
Hortense is married to Louis and Eugene will be always in favour (surely more than Murat and Bernadotte and likely more than Jerome and Louis). The only member of the extended Bonaparte’s family I can see more trusted than Eugène is Joseph and maybe Lucien if Napoleon decide to forgive him)
 
The Bonaparte would be totally wrong thinking that... If Eugène marry Maria Amalia of Naples will be put as King of Naples as replacement of Joseph (or maybe directly as replacement of his father-in-law)
Hortense is married to Louis and Eugene will be always in favour (surely more than Murat and Bernadotte and likely more than Jerome and Louis). The only member of the extended Bonaparte’s family I can see more trusted than Eugène is Joseph and maybe Lucien if Napoleon decide to forgive him)

I'd say Joseph and Louis might be in favour (Louis mostly as a result of his marriage and Napoléon for all intents and purposes having played a role in his upbringing) as far as the Bonapartes might be concerned. Even on St. Helena Napoléon was still mad at Lucien (although his tongue didn't spare Joseph either) for "marrying a whore". Jerome was forgiven much because, as Napoléon put it in a letter "you [Jérôme] are still so very young", but that doesn't mean Napoléon was especially gracious towards him - there was an incident in the Russian campaign of 1812 involving the king of Westphalia that Napoléon was not impressed with IIRC.

Even Joseph was not always Napoléon's favourite. Napoléon complained bitterly about having to go "rescue" Joseph in Spain, time and again. But he begrudged him that because Joseph was the eldest. Louis was on Napoléon's side out of loyalty, but also because the family tended to attack the two of them together, since both were married to Beauharnaises. There's a scene from the series Napoléon (with Christian Clavier as the emperor), where at a family meeting before the coronation, Joseph (I think) passes some snide little comment about Julie having to carry Josèphine's train. And Louis responds with "Joseph, that is the mother of my wife!" So, while Louis was no more happy about the marriage to Hortense than anyone else in the family (except Josèphine and Napoléon), he tended to wind up on the same side as Napoléon.

Napoléon was definitely "prejudiced" in preferring Eugène-Hortense-Stéphanie over his own siblings, because he snapped at his siblings on one occasion when they complained about the Beauharnais getting everything basically that "I do not owe them anything. Without me, Eugène would still be a good soldier and Hortense would still be the toast of society. You [his siblings] that I give crowns, complain as though I had despoiled the inheritance of our father the king by endowing them".
 
I'd say Joseph and Louis might be in favour (Louis mostly as a result of his marriage and Napoléon for all intents and purposes having played a role in his upbringing) as far as the Bonapartes might be concerned. Even on St. Helena Napoléon was still mad at Lucien (although his tongue didn't spare Joseph either) for "marrying a whore". Jerome was forgiven much because, as Napoléon put it in a letter "you [Jérôme] are still so very young", but that doesn't mean Napoléon was especially gracious towards him - there was an incident in the Russian campaign of 1812 involving the king of Westphalia that Napoléon was not impressed with IIRC.

Even Joseph was not always Napoléon's favourite. Napoléon complained bitterly about having to go "rescue" Joseph in Spain, time and again. But he begrudged him that because Joseph was the eldest. Louis was on Napoléon's side out of loyalty, but also because the family tended to attack the two of them together, since both were married to Beauharnaises. There's a scene from the series Napoléon (with Christian Clavier as the emperor), where at a family meeting before the coronation, Joseph (I think) passes some snide little comment about Julie having to carry Josèphine's train. And Louis responds with "Joseph, that is the mother of my wife!" So, while Louis was no more happy about the marriage to Hortense than anyone else in the family (except Josèphine and Napoléon), he tended to wind up on the same side as Napoléon.

Napoléon was definitely "prejudiced" in preferring Eugène-Hortense-Stéphanie over his own siblings, because he snapped at his siblings on one occasion when they complained about the Beauharnais getting everything basically that "I do not owe them anything. Without me, Eugène would still be a good soldier and Hortense would still be the toast of society. You [his siblings] that I give crowns, complain as though I had despoiled the inheritance of our father the king by endowing them".
I was not talking about family members who are in favour with Napoleon but family members who Napoleon trusted MORE than Eugene and only Joseph can fit the bill (Lucien also was brilliant and competent so if they for some reason would make peace I can see him back in full trust)... sure Louis and Jerome would be in favour more often than not but they will NEVER be trusted more than Eugene
 
I was not talking about family members who are in favour with Napoleon but family members who Napoleon trusted MORE than Eugene and only Joseph can fit the bill (Lucien also was brilliant and competent so if they for some reason would make peace I can see him back in full trust)... sure Louis and Jerome would be in favour more often than not but they will NEVER be trusted more than Eugene

Fair enough. I misunderstood, sorry:oops:
 
Fair enough. I misunderstood, sorry:oops:
Was an easy mistake and maybe in part my fault as english is not my mother tongue...

Napoleon's trust in the men of extended family in my opinion:
Joseph - (Lucien) - Eugene - Louis - Jerome - Murat - Bernadotte (Leclerc before dying was somewhere between Eugene and Murat)
 
I have to write it also here but its rather funny this discussion which i like ofhaving Nappy a Wittelsbach Lady and in an other thread this idea was not realistic for Nappy needed an Arch-Duchess or Russian Princess other options were not valid.How come it is here worth discussing?
 
I have to write it also here but its rather funny this discussion which i like ofhaving Nappy a Wittelsbach Lady and in an other thread this idea was not realistic for Nappy needed an Arch-Duchess or Russian Princess other options were not valid.How come it is here worth discussing?
Totally wrong. Napoleon wanted marry high but his biggest mistake was marrying the Austrian Archduchess... He needed to marry either a Russian Granduchess or a German princess (daughter, sister or niece of one of his allies). German princesses, including Augusta were offered to Napoleon who decided to stay with a Josephine and then decided for Anna of Russia and when was unable to get her he let himself being persuaded by Metternich and his ambition in doing the worst possible choice
 
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