Is a Mortimer England and Lancastrian Gascony possible? with a POD of changing the personality of Bolingbroke or him not betraying Richard II?
No, that was the original plan before Henry Bolingbroke and Richard II had issues with each other.WHy would anyone be willing to agree to this compromise? England would lose a whole chunk of change by giving up Gascony.
No, that was the original plan before Henry Bolingbroke and Richard II had issues with each other.
But Bolingbroke's dad is the Duke of Gascony so that might work, he retains his estates as well in that scenario.Sounds like a shitty deal to me. You're essentially sowing the seeds for discord, since both sides have something the other wants. Bolingbroke wants his ancestral estates (since I imagine there's going to be a trade-off, he renounces those, in favour of of getting Gascony) in England restored, Mortimer would want his "birthright" Gascony returned. And the French would play the two off against each other
But Bolingbroke's dad is the Duke of Gascony so that might work, he retains his estates as well in that scenario.
The surviving Plantagenets would have Gascony while Mortmers have England.
And Mortimer? Is he or whoever is regent for him (should he still be underage when he succeeds) just be okay to watch as HALF his kingdom goes walking away for no other good reason than the previous king bargained it away to someone who wanted to cause trouble?
That's like saying Prince Charles must just accept it if his mom were to give Scotland to Prince Andrew (probably not, but hopefully you get the symmetry I'm going for)
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Since Bolingbroke invaded to obtain his Lancastrian lands in the first place - getting England was a fortunate opportunity - why would he give them up?
And Mortimer? Is he or whoever is regent for him (should he still be underage when he succeeds) just be okay to watch as HALF his kingdom goes walking away for no other good reason than the previous king bargained it away to someone who wanted to cause trouble?
Because the French wanted that as a part of a peace treaty.A really messy regency and concomitant decay of central authority is maybe a reasonable scenario for Gascony to breakaway, though it'd beg the question as to why the Lancasters aren't trying anything in England.