WI: Mongols win the battle of Ain Jalut?

Guys

We are making the assumption that a Mongol victory results in a successful invasion of Egypt. It might, but it might not.

Possibly the simplest and most likely to give the 'desired' result is that the Great Khan doesn't die at this time. [Or possibly for some reason Hulagu doesn't hear of the news in time - although given Mongol communications this is unlikely]. Then when the Marmalukes come calling they get hammered and the Mongols follow up into Egypt while the country is still in turmoil.

Another option might be that either Julian of Sidon and/or the Pope are not so stupid and the crusaders side with the Mongols rather than subtly aiding the Marmalukes, which could be enough to both make a key difference in the immediate campaign and then some joint operation for the later invasion of Egypt.

The Ilkhans still have to face Berke and what became the Golden Horde. [Possibly another POD might be that he fails to seize power in the north or is quickly deposed. That would prevent the Ilkhans being so seriously distracted northwards so they might be able to concentrate against the Marmalukes.

Steve
 

Thande

Donor
One of the most ugliest maps I've seen.

That was on purpose, as I keep telling people :rolleyes: The idea was to evoke in people's minds what people from other TLs might think to the internal divisions of Africa or Canada and the USA. But people seem to be too close-minded, on this site of all sites, to appreciate that.
 
That was on purpose, as I keep telling people :rolleyes: The idea was to evoke in people's minds what people from other TLs might think to the internal divisions of Africa or Canada and the USA. But people seem to be too close-minded, on this site of all sites, to appreciate that.

That may be so, but your Bulgaria that was nowhere near the Kama-Volga confluence is what really puts this map apart from the rest.
 
assuming no one bothered to read my timeline, I simply get a mongol victory at Ain Jalut by making Julian of Sidon not kill Hulegu's grandnephew, allowing for the crusader's hate for the Mamluks to override their fear of the mongols.
 
Ain Jalut

Bohemund VI of Antioch and his father in law the King of Cilician Armenia were the only Christian rulers to support the Mongols. In the face of a Mongol victory, they should be rewarded in terms of territorial concessions. If Egypt falls to the Mongols, they are likely to lose it again within a few generations or so. The Mongols were not that successful at governing densely populated, urbanized countries such as China, so I doubt they would be more successful in Egypt.
 
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