WI: Mircosoft never becomes popular

Apple has the craftsmanship (and to an extent, innovation) credentials, but Microsoft's products were more flexible due to their focus on software instead of developing both software and hardware. As someone mentioned, they offered the flexibility most people back in the day desired for both the office and the home. Apple was less willing to concede to such demands, you had to buy the full package, so to speak. Plus, the marketing was different: Microsoft was rather upfront even in the pre-Windows era about catering "to the average Joe", while Jobs and other Apple bigwigs often focused on presenting the technological trickery of their latest products (in a kind of vaudevillian way).

Ultimately, unless Apple leadership/management gets a change in an ATL, and becomes more flexible earlier on when it comes to questions of developing software and hardware in a less interdependent way, some ATL company will simply fill in Microsoft's niche (to varying degrees). Or, if Apple undergoes such changes in an ATL, it itself could become something of an ATL Microsoft, funnily enough ! (Not necessarily in a fully comparable manner, especially if it keeps its focus on developing hardware as well from early on, instead of returning to it later.)
 

Derek Pullem

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Without Microsoft the biggest barrier to Apple's success would be Apple.

Can you imagine the anti-trust implications if Microsoft owned the software and the hardware for the bulk of the PC market.
 
The success of MS and Windows is also the story of the failure,or the success depends on how do you what to see it,of IBM to stop the PC clones makes and to the of Intel's lost of control for the processor market,who where among the thinks led prices down for the PC.So for Apple's Macintosh needs his clones.With out the clones and with the PC dominating the computers market Apple is out,unless they make there OS of the PC.
As for IBM and there OS/2 is not as much the fault of Microsoft as is the failure of IBM marketing to sell the OS/2.
And then there is Linux,how needs the OEM makes to sell there PC's with it pre installed,and a focus on the average user much earlier on.
 
The success of MS and Windows is also the story of the failure,or the success depends on how do you what to see it,of IBM to stop the PC clones makes and to the of Intel's lost of control for the processor market,who where among the thinks led prices down for the PC.So for Apple's Macintosh needs his clones.With out the clones and with the PC dominating the computers market Apple is out,unless they make there OS of the PC.
As for IBM and there OS/2 is not as much the fault of Microsoft as is the failure of IBM marketing to sell the OS/2.
And then there is Linux,how needs the OEM makes to sell there PC's with it pre installed,and a focus on the average user much earlier on.

This seems a good point. Maybe a better POD is to make everything do much better, or everything to do much worse. A couple more Mark Shuttleworth type figures or IBM focusing on software consulting earlier.

troosvelt_68 said:
Did Mircosoft become popular ??

Good question. I think that Microsoft's popularity is only just beginning. .NET was just open sourced, it embraced HTML5 and JavaScript and Windows 10 is free. IE is dead replaced by "Project Spartan" Smart money is on Microsoft getting an even bigger market share now that it's doing all the right things. Everyone likes to hate and bash Microsoft but with so much money and being literally the foundation of business, they can afford to try and try again and wipe out the competition. Making high end consumer products like Apple has brought it billions in cash because consumers had lots of disposable income the past two decades but what happens when the next generation of consumers can only afford a $500 dollar beige box PC because the economy is bad and most people of the next generation have part-time or temporary jobs? Being the standard for all sorts of business not just IT makes Microsoft a long-term winner and a long (long) time from now we might remember Apple like the C64 though chances are because of its incredible brand and market penetration it will last as long as consumers can shell out the bucks.
 
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