WI Mehmed II was killed in May 1453?

Well, this is the time period of Byzantium I'm least familiar with: Was the Union a whole-sale adoption of Latin rite, including the Latin Mass, or was it a symbolic union?.


Actually this "union" was in fact a submission of the orthodox church to the Papacy... Orthodox Bishops and Lords were required to aknowledge the Pope as their superior...
Orthodox view considers Pope as another Patriarch "Primus inter pares"
while Catholic view considers Pope as a universal Bishop whose authority is above other Patriarchs and Councils...
The desperate Emperor was forced to accept the Papal Primacy in a last effort to save the ruined empire...
 
So basically, the west wanted to diminish the Sultan, or Padishah, whatever, down to the level of an independent Prince? That's a pretty large case of self delusion considering it nearly took Vienna and stretched across the Middle East...
Didn't the Ottomans call the Habsburgs "Kings of Vienna" pre-1683 for the same sort of reason?

Still not as bad as calling Elizabeth I Queen of the "Vilayet of England"... :eek:
 

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It would have bought more time for Constantinople. The Byzantines had sent
emissaries to Rome to beg for help from the West. The Pope was about to preach a crusade to save Constantinople when it fell IOTL.
 
It would have bought more time for Constantinople. The Byzantines had sent
emissaries to Rome to beg for help from the West. The Pope was about to preach a crusade to save Constantinople when it fell IOTL.

The Pope could preach yes... But who would have heard the call???? England and France where busy killing each other let alone dynastic struggles in both of them... Spanish Kingdoms where also busy kicking Moors out of Spain... None would have answered... THe only help Constantinople ever received from the Pope were 200 archers... all the others came by their own decision in OTL... Killing Mehmet II would buy few years more for the Empire but it would be a matter of time for Ottomans to come roaring back...
The only foreigner who could actually aid in the siege would be John Hunniady... But i doubt it...
 
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