WI: McGovern-Carter '72

I've always rued the choice of Thomas Eagleton as a running mate, and it's been said Carter sought the vice presidential nomination in 1972. While he was fairly fresh as a Governor, I think it could've been an interesting ticket.

Butterflying away the 'abortions, amnesty and acid' quip and Eagleton's controversial health history, and adding Carter's Deep South origins and Washington outsider status, how does the ticket do?

I'm not exactly expecting them to win the election, but I imagine the gap would be more than a little different from OTL.

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I've always rued the choice of Thomas Eagleton as a running mate, and it's been said Carter sought the vice presidential nomination in 1972. While he was fairly fresh as a Governor, I think it could've been an interesting ticket.

Butterflying away the 'abortions, amnesty and acid' quip and Eagleton's controversial health history, and adding Carter's Deep South origins and Washington outsider status, how does the ticket do?

I'm not exactly expecting them to win the election, but I imagine the gap would be more than a little different from OTL.

As with most VP nominees, Carter being being on the Democratic ticket in '72 does little to enhance McGovern's chances of winning the presidency. What does help in this situation is that there's no Eagleton fiasco and thus more positive energy and hope in the Democrat's fall campaign.
 
I don't think that Carter helps McGovern anywhere. McGovern was so toxic in the South, that even Carter couldn't help him there.
 
I hate to be rude but I think part of my post was missed...

I'm not exactly expecting them to win the election, but I imagine the gap would be more than a little different from OTL.
 
George did not like Carter. He voted for Ford in 76. There is no way George picks Carter in 72.
 
I read that McGovern did not like Carter but never that he voted for Ford. aAnyway, no Eagelton affair helps McGovern but not all that much. aAt best he could win Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Minnasota and South Dakota. tThe real
question is how does being on losing effect Carter in 1976?
 
Only two losing VP candidates ever got their Party's Presidential nomination later on. FDR VEEP in 20 Presidential in 32. Bob Dole. VEEP in 76 Presidential in 96. That gives you an idea of Carters chances in 76 if George had picked him. But take it from me I know Senator McGovern, he would have never picked Jimmy Carter. Why I don't really know. Personalities???
 
I've always rued the choice of Thomas Eagleton as a running mate, and it's been said Carter sought the vice presidential nomination in 1972. While he was fairly fresh as a Governor, I think it could've been an interesting ticket.

you need a POD before 1972 for that to work.
 
Okay, I wasn't aware the men had issues. Wonder why now.

Anyway, no Eagelton affair helps McGovern but not all that much. aAt best he could win Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Minnasota and South Dakota.
This is mostly what I was curious about.
 
No, Carter led a stop McGovern movement at the convention, and as stated, McGovern voted for Ford in '76.

If you want a saving VP pick, Walter Cronkite's your man.
 
Soruce for McGovern voting for Ford

Okay, okay, I'm sorry I started the thread, but I'm still curious if there's anything else to say on at least changes to the states carried.

Once again, I am not expecting a McGovern victory in the general election.

I can't right now, but I'd expect McGovern to do better in the Midwest and Northeast. I agree with Hart's assessment that sans Eagleton they would've gotten around eight states.
 
Well Carter does remove the drama of Eagleton and his replacement, which really hurt McGovern. That could help in some of the Northern progressive states- maybe Minnesota, Rhode Island, Vermont and Maine. I don't know the margins in those states off the top of my head, but it had to be better than the margins in the more conservative states.
 
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