WI: McClellan given another month?

Saphroneth

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In OTL, McClellan was relieved of command of the Army of the Potomac on the seventh of November, 1862.
This was a poor decision, in my view, because at that time McClellan had just achieved an important strategic coup and was poised to take advantage of it - while the switch from McClellan to Burnside gave the Confederates weeks to reorganize their army.

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McClellan had effectively split Lee's army in two and gotten between them. In OTL it took until the end of November for Jackson to reunite with Longstreet - there was definitely an exploitable window there.

So, what do we think would happen if McClellan - with about a 3:1 superiority in numbers by what's on the map - took on Longstreet? I see no problem in assuming Longstreet would be defeated, and at that point there's actually very little between McClellan and Richmond. Jackson would be compelled to move south as fast as possible to defend Richmond, along with whatever was left of Longstreet's force, and either way McClellan definitely has the initiative.

Would such a success have prevented McClellan's relief? OTL the justification for firing him was that he'd uncovered Washington, but with Jackson running south and Longstreet pushed back that would be even less true than OTL.
 
McClellan is sacked January 1863.

He can't uncover his flank with Jackson (which he would most likely assume to be far stronger than it was) and Jackson's foot cavalry could probably march quickly enough to arrive on scene if necessary. That means he is only bringing, at best, 2/3rds of his strength against Longstreet, who will be on the defensive. Most likely the AotP gets blunted somewhere between the Wilderness and Fredericksburg, but they make it no closer to Richmond than they did in the summer.

This is even assuming he attacks in November, which OTL he showed no inclination to do. Quite frankly, he probably squanders the initiative. His greatest sin was being indecisive, and so Lee almost always got one up on him. I can't see an extra month helping him.
 

Saphroneth

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He can't uncover his flank with Jackson (which he would most likely assume to be far stronger than it was) and Jackson's foot cavalry could probably march quickly enough to arrive on scene if necessary.
We know how long it took OTL and it was at least a week after starting to move - note that all the passes through the Blue Ridge mountains are blocked.

That means he is only bringing, at best, 2/3rds of his strength against Longstreet, who will be on the defensive.
Even 80,000 troops against 40,000 is likely to do fairly well - and there's no reason for McClellan to leave 40,000 out of the battle.

Once over the river and supplied as far as could be expected at that time, the army [McClellan’s army] pushed ahead vigorously. Jefferson Davis expressed his surprise at the speed of it. On the 7th of November the army was massed at and about Warrenton. Lee and Longstreet, with half the Rebel army, were at Culpeper, only six miles away from McClellan's advance guard. Jackson, with the other half, was beyond the Blue Ridge, at least 125 miles away. Mr. Swinton speaks of this movement with warm praise:


"Advancing due southward toward Warrenton, he masked the movement by guarding the passes of the Blue Ridge, and by threatening to issue through these, he compelled Lee to retain Jackson in the valley. With such success was this movement managed that on reaching Warrenton on the 9th, while Lee had sent half of his army forward to Culpeper to oppose McClellan's advance in that direction, the other half was still west of the Blue Ridge, scattered up and down the valley, and separated from the other moiety by at least two days' march. McClellan's next projected move was to strike across obliquely westward and interpose between the severed divisions of the Confederate forces". . . .


The Confederate forces were split in twain. Jackson was at Winchester, 125 miles away, and all the available gaps of the Blue Ridge by which Jackson might otherwise join Lee—namely. Snicker's, Ashby's, Chester, and Thornton's—were all "corked up" and held in strong force, so that Jackson could bring no aid to Lee for the approaching battle.


Lee was therefore isolated, and the preponderance of McClellan's forces left no doubt as to the result of the coming battle. McClellan had 268 regiments of infantry, 18 regiments of cavalry, and 73 batteries; while Lee had only 89 regiments of infantry, 15 regiments of cavalry, and 45 batteries. . . .


The peril to his army was so imminent, the chance of escape so slight, that it is said Lee for the only time in the war was bewildered. And his dispatches of November the 7th, the 8th, and the 9th seem to show that he was.


It will he seen, therefore, that there was every likelihood that McClellan's now powerful army, confident of its leader and full of courage because of that confidence, would quickly fall with irresistible force on the isolated half of the Rebel army under Lee. A complete Union victory was promised by every existing condition. Nothing more desirable than the broad wall between the two parts of the Confederate forces can be imagined. Yet it was made a pretext for McClellan's removal, and we are earnestly and gravely assured by one of the President's biographers that he had determined that if McClellan should permit Lee to cross the Blue Ridge and place himself between Richmond and the Army of the Potomac (a movement to be prayed for, not prevented) he would remove him from command. The folly of such a resolution—oblivious as Lincoln must have been of the advantage to the Union of the very movement which he decided in advance would be a calamity—is too evident to warrant any commentary.
(McClellan: A Vindication of the Military Career of General George B. McClellan, New York: The Neale Publishing Company, 1916, pp. 399-401)


This is even assuming he attacks in November, which OTL he showed no inclination to do.
His OTL plan was to interspose himself between the two halves of Lee's army (i.e. cut west of Longstreet) over the next few days.

Quite frankly, he probably squanders the initiative. His greatest sin was being indecisive, and so Lee almost always got one up on him. I can't see an extra month helping him.
McClellan wasn't really indecisive, in most cases - indeed, often he was prone to following orders even when they made no sense, hardly a criticism.
Is there a specific example of his being indecisive you can think of?
 
We know how long it took OTL and it was at least a week after starting to move - note that all the passes through the Blue Ridge mountains are blocked.

And so the forces blocking them shall remain, and Jackson can take the long road south through the Valley and move himself to join Lee once McClellan slowly begins to move. Most likely by the time McClellan is ready to fight, much of Longstreet and Jackson's commands will have merged, probably through Thorton's gap, which is not held in strong force per that map. Even granting that, Jackson could take the long way south and north again, and most likely still arrive in time.

Even 80,000 troops against 40,000 is likely to do fairly well - and there's no reason for McClellan to leave 40,000 out of the battle.

Lee faced worse odds at Antietam. I'm heavily skeptical McCllelan could get one better on Lee when Lee will be choosing the battlefield.

His OTL plan was to interspose himself between the two halves of Lee's army (i.e. cut west of Longstreet) over the next few days.

It might have worked, if briefly. Most likely he is stopped on the banks of the Aesthum River, or perhaps Thorton's River. Either way, at one point he's going to run into a dug in Lee, and the odds are heavily stacked against him in that case. When he is stalled he will retreat, and then he will be sacked. Burnside will take over, and in turn be sacked.

McClellan wasn't really indecisive, in most cases - indeed, often he was prone to following orders even when they made no sense, hardly a criticism.
Is there a specific example of his being indecisive you can think of?

He certainly was. The entire battle of Antietam is proof of that, he knew he had Lee's plans, he had the superior force, and he had Lee on the ropes. That he failed to achieve a truly overwhelming victory here is simply astounding in light of all the advantages he held.

Then there's the matter of dawdling on the Peninsula while Pope's army was routed, or for that matter his dawdling in front of Yorktown. Indecisive, pure and simple. As many extenuating circumstances as can be proposed, the simple truth is he did not act decisively during his tenure commanding the AotP.
 

Saphroneth

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Lee faced worse odds at Antietam. I'm heavily skeptical McCllelan could get one better on Lee when Lee will be choosing the battlefield.
By all indications Lee did not face odds worse than 2:1 at Antietam. That was more like 75,000 vs 90,000.
It should be self-evident that Lee's army had not more than doubled in size since Antietam...

It might have worked, if briefly. Most likely he is stopped on the banks of the Aesthum River, or perhaps Thorton's River. Either way, at one point he's going to run into a dug in Lee, and the odds are heavily stacked against him in that case. When he is stalled he will retreat, and then he will be sacked. Burnside will take over, and in turn be sacked.
I think the force-space ratio is against Lee if he can't get Jackson back to join with him (which would be fraught with McClellan between the two halves of the army) because 40,000 men is not sufficient to hold a line more than twenty miles wide.

He certainly was. The entire battle of Antietam is proof of that, he knew he had Lee's plans, he had the superior force, and he had Lee on the ropes. That he failed to achieve a truly overwhelming victory here is simply astounding in light of all the advantages he held.
But he didn't have Lee's plans for the battle (he had a movement order from a week previously), he didn't have the superior force (they were pretty close in size and much of McClellan's force was unseasoned men).

Then there's the matter of dawdling on the Peninsula while Pope's army was routed
You mean when Lincoln and Stanton ordered the evacuation of the Peninsula against McClellan's protests, and when McClellan did his best to get the army to Pope as fast as possible? Pope attacked when he had insufficient force - you can hardly blame McClellan for that because he was a long way off and the evacuation (that freed Lee up to move) was against McClellan's warnings that exactly this kind of thing would happen!

or for that matter his dawdling in front of Yorktown.
Which he didn't do, he conducted regular approaches because all other options (quick attack, naval attack, turning the position) had been rendered impossible. He ended up finishing the preparations so quickly that the Confederate commander was compelled to abandon dozens of heavy guns (i.e. he finished ahead of schedule).
Yorktown was a strong position, and McClellan defeated it very quickly given the fact he had lost his turning force (McDowell) and had none of the naval cooperation he had planned on having.

Indecisive, pure and simple. As many extenuating circumstances as can be proposed, the simple truth is he did not act decisively during his tenure commanding the AotP.
Well, he didn't charge thousands of men into a bloody gauntlet with little chance of success, if that's what you mean.
 
By all indications Lee did not face odds worse than 2:1 at Antietam. That was more like 75,000 vs 90,000.
It should be self-evident that Lee's army had not more than doubled in size since Antietam...
Lee did not have 75,000 men when he crossed into Maryland; he started with about 69,000 men, and subtracting sick and casualties from the battles in South Mountain, he should have fought Antietam with 63,000 men. However, do to straggling from the hardness of the marches necessary to reconcentrate his widely dispersed army, it was fought with no more than 40,000 men. Many stragglers would be brought back to the colors, as would convalescents, exchanged prisoners (Harpers Ferry was the largest US surrender until the Philippines), and new conscripts.

Just looking at the map, it would seem like the best move for Lee would be to pull Longstreet back into the Valley, unite with Jackson, and threaten McClellan's communications with Washington via the Orange & Alexandria railroad, or else make an offensive into the North, and rely on political pressure from Lincoln to pull McClellan out of Virginia to meet the threat. The ideal scenario would be for McClellan to deploy his whole army against one of Lee's wings, while the other envelops it; interior or exterior lines are only an advantage when you have the initiative, so Lee would have to do something dramatic and force McClellan to respond if he wants to take advantage of his dispersed dispositions.
 
Then there's the matter of dawdling on the Peninsula while Pope's army was routed,

Yeah, no. While there are plenty of times I think McClellan should have moved faster or take a gamble, even I know that Pope got into that mess himself by attacking on his own accord while the other army wasn't there yet.
 

Saphroneth

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Just looking at the map, it would seem like the best move for Lee would be to pull Longstreet back into the Valley, unite with Jackson, and threaten McClellan's communications with Washington via the Orange & Alexandria railroad, or else make an offensive into the North, and rely on political pressure from Lincoln to pull McClellan out of Virginia to meet the threat.
Good if it can be done; however McClellan's next planned move was to cut the route Longstreet had taken out of the valley, so that avenue would be cut off (i..e it couldn't be done).

From memory there was a foot-and-mouth epidemic going on in the Confederate army as well (same one that had hit the Union army a few weeks prior) so moving that fast would be very difficult even if the route was open.

interior or exterior lines are only an advantage when you have the initiative, so Lee would have to do something dramatic and force McClellan to respond if he wants to take advantage of his dispersed dispositions.
We do know from Lee's letters of the time that he considered himself essentially humbugged - over those few days he had no idea what to do and considered himself functionally trapped (and that's allowing for whatever McClellan issues there were, this is hardly Lee's first time dealing with McClellan...)
 
By all indications Lee did not face odds worse than 2:1 at Antietam. That was more like 75,000 vs 90,000.
It should be self-evident that Lee's army had not more than doubled in size since Antietam...But he didn't have Lee's plans for the battle (he had a movement order from a week previously), he didn't have the superior force (they were pretty close in size and much of McClellan's force was unseasoned men).

Simply not true. McClellan completely outnumbered Lee by 2:1, whatever source stated Lee had 75,000 men has some real wishful thinking about the size of the Confederate Army in that period. McClellan had all the resources at hand to crush Lee, but mismanaged them every step of the way. The Lost Order was a detailed movement plan Lee was in the process of carrying out, and McClellan had it, but dawdled and delayed for crucial days, which allowed Lee to concentrate his forces. More to the point, rather than attacking immediately when he discovered Lee, he waited an entire day, and even worse, he mismanaged tie battle by not giving overall orders but issuing them to Corps commanders and doing little to orchestrate the battle itself. He made his assaults piecemeal and failed to achieve anything resembling a concentration of force.

It was a disgraceful performance, which got him rightfully sacked, especially as he utterly failed to follow up his victory, and didn't even have Meade's excuse that the entire army was exhausted because he failed to commit his entire force. V Corps and VI Corps were fresh and not even used. His conduct in the entire Maryland campaign leaves much to be desired.

I think the force-space ratio is against Lee if he can't get Jackson back to join with him (which would be fraught with McClellan between the two halves of the army) because 40,000 men is not sufficient to hold a line more than twenty miles wide.

He wouldn't need to hold a 20 mile front, he would just have to mass his troops wherever McClellan decided to advance, dig in, then watch McClellan dither for a few days. McClellan would attack, he would fail, and then withdraw. There's maybe a slight chance he could push Lee back, but not before Jackson arrives and Lee concentrates his troops.

You mean when Lincoln and Stanton ordered the evacuation of the Peninsula against McClellan's protests, and when McClellan did his best to get the army to Pope as fast as possible? Pope attacked when he had insufficient force - you can hardly blame McClellan for that because he was a long way off and the evacuation (that freed Lee up to move) was against McClellan's warnings that exactly this kind of thing would happen!

Lee had already withdrawn to Richmond by the time that happened, McClellan then did little but ask for more men, which compelled Stanton to order him to withdraw. If he wasn't going to use the army why bother leaving it where it will do no good? Lee was withdrawing before Stanton ordered McClellan back. Pope may have been brash and headstrong, but McClellan did not exactly hurry to reinforce him.

Which he didn't do, he conducted regular approaches because all other options (quick attack, naval attack, turning the position) had been rendered impossible. He ended up finishing the preparations so quickly that the Confederate commander was compelled to abandon dozens of heavy guns (i.e. he finished ahead of schedule).
Yorktown was a strong position, and McClellan defeated it very quickly given the fact he had lost his turning force (McDowell) and had none of the naval cooperation he had planned on having.

Yorktown was a strong position, held by deception, and McClellan dithered in attacking it as well. McClellan preparations forced Johnston to withdraw, eventually. However, he didn't manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Johnston anywhere between Yorktown and Seven Pines, which hardly speaks well for him.

In summation there is much dithering in evidence, an overabundance of caution, and very little substance to McClellan's command tenure. That another month would allow him to inflict a decisive defeat on Lee is hard to believe.
 

Saphroneth

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Yorktown was a strong position, held by deception, and McClellan dithered in attacking it as well.
This is frankly false. Yorktown was a strong position held by the fact it consisted of a flooded river area on the western flank and heavily-fortified earthworks on the eastern flank. To attack it requires being under the fire of dozens of heavy guns for most of a mile.
As for "deception", there was very little of that. The actual force present at Yorktown was quite large. (At what date are you measuring?)

Lee had already withdrawn to Richmond by the time that happened, McClellan then did little but ask for more men, which compelled Stanton to order him to withdraw. If he wasn't going to use the army why bother leaving it where it will do no good? Lee was withdrawing before Stanton ordered McClellan back. Pope may have been brash and headstrong, but McClellan did not exactly hurry to reinforce him.
Well, yes, McClellan was perfectly within his rights to ask for more men, given that he'd just been pushed back and had taken heavy casualties. (He was actually slightly outnumbered during the Seven Days.) In any case, if McClellan wasn't going to use an army capable of attacking Richmond then he should have been replaced then, not withdrawn.

He wouldn't need to hold a 20 mile front, he would just have to mass his troops wherever McClellan decided to advance, dig in, then watch McClellan dither for a few days. McClellan would attack, he would fail, and then withdraw. There's maybe a slight chance he could push Lee back, but not before Jackson arrives and Lee concentrates his troops.
But McClellan has greater mobility (no foot and mouth) and superior numbers.

The Lost Order was a detailed movement plan Lee was in the process of carrying out, and McClellan had it, but dawdled and delayed for crucial days, which allowed Lee to concentrate his forces.
Explain how McClellan dawdled, please. He attacked the three passes very quickly (South Mountain) and I'm at a loss to see how he could have reached Lee much faster.

More to the point, rather than attacking immediately when he discovered Lee, he waited an entire day, and even worse, he mismanaged tie battle by not giving overall orders but issuing them to Corps commanders and doing little to orchestrate the battle itself.
He waited a day because he needed to determine Lee's positions and needed some of his own force to come up.
As for giving orders to Corps commanders - that's what an army commander does.

It was a disgraceful performance, which got him rightfully sacked, especially as he utterly failed to follow up his victory, and didn't even have Meade's excuse that the entire army was exhausted because he failed to commit his entire force. V Corps and VI Corps were fresh and not even used. His conduct in the entire Maryland campaign leaves much to be desired.

Perhaps it would help for me to just post all of Mike Griffiths' material on the Antietam campaign, because you don't seem to be aware of the way McClellan's army had a serious lack of critical supplies after Antietam:


Criticism: The first two Union divisions arrived on the afternoon of September 15 with the bulk of the remainder late that evening. Although an immediate Union attack on the morning of September 16 would have enjoyed an overwhelming advantage in numbers, McClellan's trademark caution and his belief that Lee had over 100,000 men caused him to delay his attack until the next day. In fact, Lee had only 43,000. McClellan’s delay gave the Lee a full day to mass his forces and prepare defensive positions.


Response: This is a curious criticism. It is well known, and thoroughly documented, that McClellan did not launch his main assault on the morning of September 16 (1) because the ammunition trains were very late in arriving, (2) because there was a dense fog that lasted until around noon, and (3) because he had discovered that Lee had repositioned many of his units by the morning of the 16th and therefore McClellan naturally had to do more reconnaissance to determine Lee’s new positions and dispositions. No sensible commander would have launched his main assault until there was sufficient visibility and until he had a decent idea of the enemy’s new locations and dispositions.


Furthermore, McClellan did attack on the afternoon of the 16th. He did not launch his main assault until the following day, but he sent an entire corps forward on the Union right, across Antietam Creek, and in heavy fighting that lasted until dark that corps pushed the opposing Confederate force back to the Miller House.


The figure of 43,000 for Lee’s force is arguably off by at least 70%. Joseph Harsh and Gene Thorp, among other scholars, have made a strong case that Lee had closer to 75,000 troops at Antietam (see, for example, Harsh, Taken at the Flood: Robert E. Lee and Confederate Strategy in the Maryland Campaign of 1862, Kent State University Press, 1999, pp. 37-39). It has long been known that Confederate commanders would sometimes deliberately under-report their troop strength after a battle, especially if they lost the battle, so as to make their performance look better.


The traditional casualty numbers for Antietam also deserve another look. Most books on Antietam report that Lee’s total casualties were 10,320, as opposed to 12,400 for McClellan, with Lee suffering 1,500 killed, 7,750 wounded, and 1,020 missing or captured. But Civil War veteran and scholar Isaac Heysinger argued that Lee’s supposed casualty numbers were far too low. Based on medical reports, unit reports, burial accounts, and other period sources, Heysinger concluded that Lee’s casualty numbers were more than double the traditional figures. According to Heysinger, Lee’s total casualties were 25,330, with 3,500 killed, 16,330 wounded, and 6,000 missing or captured (Antietam and the Maryland and Virginia Campaigns of 1862, New York: The Neale Publishing Company, 1912, pp. 132-141; Heysinger served as a non-commissioned officer in McClellan’s army, fought at Antietam, and later became a noted doctor who received 36 patents).


Another fact that must be considered—and it is a fact McClellan fully understood—is that going into this battle, Lee’s troops were much more experienced than McClellan’s troops. A substantial number of McClellan’s army—including about 20% of his infantry—consisted of new recruits with minimal training, whereas most of Lee’s troops were veterans.


Criticism: The significance of the battle was not Lee's withdrawal, but McClellan's inexplicable failure to pursue. On September 18, the armies remained in their positions without fighting. Lee was highly vulnerable. About one-fourth of his army had been lost in the previous day's fighting, and he had no reserves. After weeks of marching, his men were tired and low on supplies. McClellan, on the other hand, welcomed an additional 12,000 troops on September 18, and he had 24,000 troops who had seen little or no action the day before. He outnumbered Lee by more than two to one. Yet, McClellan refused to pursue Lee.


Response: Some of these criticisms are downright ridiculous, and the troop numbers are based on the dubious assumption that Lee arrived at Antietam with only 43,000 men. The significance of the battle most certainly was Lee’s retreat, not McClellan’s “failure” to immediately pursue Lee. McClellan’s victory over Lee ended Lee’s Maryland campaign, decimated Lee’s officer corps, restored Northern public confidence, enabled Lincoln to issue his preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, and prevented England from recognizing the Confederacy.


Not only did McClellan win at Antietam, but he won the two key battles that led up to Antietam—the Battle of South Mountain and the Battle of Campton’s Gap. McClellan’s critics either ignore or minimize these victories because they resulted from smart decisions and rapid action by McClellan.


The victories at South Mountain and Crampton’s Gap would have ended Lee’s Maryland campaign if Lincoln and Halleck had listened to McClellan when he repeatedly advised them to withdraw the 10,000 troops from Harper’s Ferry and add them to his army. Even before McClellan left Washington, he urged Halleck to withdraw the Harper’s Ferry garrison and add that force to his army while there was still time to do so (Ethan Rafuse, McClellan’s War, pp. 285-286; Harsh, Taken at the Flood, pp. 269-272, 315-316). Lincoln and Halleck rejected McClellan’s request. Their failure to evacuate Harper’s Ferry led to the largest surrender of U.S. troops in the war and convinced Lee not to abandon his Maryland campaign.


After the battles at South Mountain and Crampton’s Gap, Lee concluded that his Maryland campaign was ruined and he began to prepare to return to Virginia. But, he changed his mind when Stonewall Jackson informed him that he had captured Harper’s Ferry, had taken the 10,000 Federal troops there prisoner, and had seized the garrison’s valuable supplies. When Lee heard this, he decided to stay and give battle at Antietam.


Regarding McClellan’s decision not to attack on September 18, he had several good reasons for not attacking. For one thing, he was somewhat low on small-arms ammunition and extremely low on artillery ammunition. A large shipment of artillery shells was supposed to reach McClellan early in the morning on the 18th, but for reasons that remain unknown, there was a six-hour delay between Washington and Baltimore, and the shipment did not reach Hagerstown, over 6 miles from McClellan’s camp, until 1:00 that afternoon (the small-arms ammunition arrived even later). (The train carrying the artillery shells should have made it to the Baltimore station in about 90-100 minutes, which would have enabled it to reach Hagerstown by about 5:30 or 6:00 that morning, but on this occasion the trip took over six hours. To this day, no one knows why this strange delay occurred. The train left Washington before midnight; the train had absolute right of way; and the rail line was clear. Heysinger discusses this strange incident in detail in Antietam and the Maryland and Virginia Campaigns of 1862, pp. 145-149.)


As for the issue pursuit, this is a favorite complaint among amateur critics, and among historians who should know better. In point of act, in several cases Civil War generals did not pursue the defeated army. For example, Grant did not pursue Beauregard’s defeated army as it fled to Corinth after the Battle of Shiloh, even though Grant’s army, recently swelled with reinforcements, heavily outnumbered the Confederate force. Similarly, General George G. Meade wisely decided against attacking Lee’s defeated army immediately after the Battle of Gettysburg. General James Longstreet, one of the South’s best generals, said Lee would have liked nothing better than for Meade to have attacked him soon after Gettysburg because Lee likely would have inflicted the same kind of defeat on Meade that Meade inflicted on Lee in Pickett’s Charge. There were cases in the war when the winning army attacked the defeated army soon after the battle and suffered a nasty repulse.


Furthermore, McClellan did pursue Lee on September 19 as soon as he found out that Lee had retreated from Antietam, but he called off the pursuit after he realized that Lee’s positions across the river were too strong to be carried by the pursuit force and because his army was in no condition to move en masse against Lee’s new positions in Virginia, due to a severe lack of critical supplies. McClellan’s reasons for not attacking Lee with his entire army immediately after Antietam are just as valid and sound as Meade’s reasons for not attacking Lee immediately after Gettysburg. (For a good analysis of the soundness of Meade’s decision not to attack Lee right after Gettysburg, see Tom Huntington, Searching for George Gordon Meade: The Forgotten Victor of Gettysburg, Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 2013, pp. 185-202.)


McClellan might very well have destroyed Lee’s army on September 17 if Lincoln and Halleck had not needlessly kept tens of thousands of troops near Washington instead of letting McClellan have most of them, as he requested. On September 10 and 11, McClellan requested that every available soldier from the Washington area be sent to his army. But Lincoln and Halleck sent him only one corps (Porter’s corps of 13,000 men, which McClellan designated as his reserve force). McClellan’s critics rarely mention this egregious blunder by Lincoln and Halleck, while they are quick to condemn McClellan for not sending in his reserve force during the battle (a move that even the aggressive Porter argued against at the time). General Upton:


While General McClellan has been censured for not engaging the
13,000 men under the command of General Porter, justice requires that we should cast a glance at
the situation around Washington. . . .
On September 11, he . . . recommended . . . "that every available man" be added to his army. The same day he again telegraphed:
“Please send forward all the troops you can spare from Washington, particularly Porter, Heintzelman, Sigel, and all the other old troops. General Banks reports 72,500 troops in and about Washington”. . . .

The commander, as on the Peninsula, sought to place the result of the battle beyond doubt, by asking that every available man be sent forward; yet, at the critical moment when he was censured for not employing his last reserve of 13,000 men, an army stood idle at Washington aggregating present for duty 71,210; present and absent, 107,839. Had 60,000 of these men been sent forward, the raw troops placed in reserve north of the Antietam, the old troops to have joined their veteran comrades in battle, it is fair to infer that little would have been heard of the Confederacy after the Maryland invasion. (The Military Policy of the United States, pp. 383-384)


Criticism: The president was amazed to discover that from September 17 to October 26, despite his and Halleck’s repeated requests, McClellan declined to pursue Lee across the Potomac, claiming he was short of equipment and that his army needed rest. In fact, despite repeated urging Lincoln and Halleck, McClellan did not move toward Virginia until five weeks after the battle. McClellan was not short of supplies and his army was no more exhausted than was Lee’s army.


Response: This is a mix of myth and distortion. For starters, the fact that McClellan’s army was badly lacking in critical supplies is abundantly documented in the relevant primary sources and has been discussed in numerous analyses of the aftermath of Antietam (see, for example, Rafuse, McClellan’s War, pp. 350-359; George Ticknor Curtis, McClellan’s Last Service to the Republic, New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1886, pp. 61-71; see also below).


General Meade, one of McClellan’s subordinate commanders, went so far as to accuse the War Department of deliberately withholding supplies from the army. Quite of a few of McClellan’s subordinate officers believed that Stanton delayed the arrival of supplies so he could then blame McClellan for “excessive delay.” Stanton never did provide a credible innocent explanation for the long delay in getting supplies to McClellan’s army.


Stanton claimed that the tons of supplies intended for McClellan’s army at Harper’s Ferry had been mistakenly, accidentally sent to the troops garrisoned around the capital. But Stanton, along with everybody else in the War Department, knew that McClellan’s army was at Harper’s Ferry, over 60 miles away. For nearly three weeks, McClellan complained in his dispatches to the War Department that he was not receiving the supplies he had requested, yet Stanton and Halleck, along with Republican newspapers, kept insisting that the supplies had been sent and that McClellan had all the supplies he needed to pursue Lee in Virginia.


When confronted with an eyewitness report from Colonel Thomas Scott that McClellan had not received the supplies, Stanton and/or Halleck “suggested” that the supplies had been sent to the garrison units around the capital, since those units were technically part of the Army of the Potomac. No one ever explained how the tons of supplies requested by McClellan for his army at Harper’s Ferry could have been “mistakenly” sent to the capital’s garrison units when everyone in Washington knew that McClellan’s army was over 60 miles away. In fact, upon further investigation, train loads of the supplies that McClellan had requested “were found on the tracks at Washington, where some of the cars had been for weeks” (William H. Powell, The Fifth Army Corps--Army of the Potomac: A Record of Operations During the Civil War in the United States of America, 1861-1865, New York: G. P. Putnam’s Sons, 1893, p. 311, emphasis added).


Also, Lincoln had no reason to be amazed that McClellan had to resupply his army before moving against Lee in Virginia, because Lincoln soon became aware of the fact that the supplies that Stanton had claimed had been sent to McClellan had not been delivered to him, and that McClellan’s army was in fact suffering from a severe shortage of basic supplies. As soon as those supplies were finally delivered, McClellan was only too happy to begin his move against Lee in Virginia.


Part of the problem was that Lincoln was virtually illiterate when it came to military matters. For all his good qualities, Lincoln did not understand even the basics of military operations. On many occasions, he imposed faulty strategies and unsound deployments on his commanders, especially on McClellan. Lincoln also frequently pestered commanders for updates and offered baseless and annoying comments on ongoing military operations. Lincoln should have understood that McClellan’s army would be in great need of resupply after fighting several intense battles during the preceding two weeks—including the single bloodiest day of combat in the entire war—and given the fact that McClellan’s “army” had been hastily thrown together after Pope’s debacle at Second Bull Run just two weeks before Antietam.


Regarding the claim that McClellan should not have taken five weeks to rest and resupply his army after Antietam before going after Lee in Virginia, we might want to consider what Colonel Robert Gould Shaw had to say on the matter. Shaw was in McClellan's army at the time, and students of the Civil War know that Shaw was no shrinking violet when it came to combat. In a letter to his mother, dated September 25, 1862, barely a week after the battle, he made it known that he strongly agreed with McClellan's decision to rest and resupply the army after Antietam and not to move immediately to pursue Lee--he also provided some insight into the supply shortage, the one that the Radicals claimed did not exist:


We are regularly encamped up here now, and hope to stay some time, for the army certainly needs rest; and Heaven preserve us from a winter campaign! If any newspaper talks of "On to Richmond" after the middle of November, let the editors come down and try it themselves; from what we experienced the first six weeks of this campaign, I am certain only about half the army would live through it; the wet and cold together are too much for men who can seldom change shoes or clothing, and most of whom are without Indian rubber blankets. A wet overcoat, and woolen blanket in the same condition, are very small protection. We have four to six wagons per regiment now, so that no extra clothing can be carried. (Russell Duncan, editor, Blue-Eyed Child of Fortune: The Civil War Letters of Colonel Robert Gould Shaw, University of Georgia Press, 1992, p. 244)
 
Well, yes, McClellan was perfectly within his rights to ask for more men, given that he'd just been pushed back and had taken heavy casualties. (He was actually slightly outnumbered during the Seven Days.) In any case, if McClellan wasn't going to use an army capable of attacking Richmond then he should have been replaced then, not withdrawn.

He was not outnumbered during the Seven Days, no amount of fudging the numbers could ever show that. He could ask for more men yes, but he could also have done something with the men he had. He did not, and there is no reason to believe he would ever do anything else.

Explain how McClellan dawdled, please. He attacked the three passes very quickly (South Mountain) and I'm at a loss to see how he could have reached Lee much faster.

Waiting 18 hours isn't decisive, and then not committing two whole corps in the battle is just ridiculous. McClellan has no excuse for that, despite what some modern apologists might wish.

He waited a day because he needed to determine Lee's positions and needed some of his own force to come up.
As for giving orders to Corps commanders - that's what an army commander does.

No he did not. He dawdled plain and simple, he was very much aware of where the Confederate army was, and he had the forces in place to probe them in force and push them, which he declined to do. As the battle went on he did not manage his corps, merely giving vague directions and allowing for such debacles as Burnside's bridge and only committing attacks piecemeal along the whole line which allowed Lee to throw back each assault.

He did not issue clear or decisive orders, and the army suffered for it.

Perhaps it would help for me to just post all of Mike Griffiths' material on the Antietam campaign, because you don't seem to be aware of the way McClellan's army had a serious lack of critical supplies after Antietam:

Since Mike Griffith's seems to be making things up here, no, no it would not. This is a series of ridiculous assertions that wouldn't even merit discussion. This sentence "It has long been known that Confederate commanders would sometimes deliberately under-report their troop strength after a battle, especially if they lost the battle, so as to make their performance look better." is just laughable. What serious scholar in the last one hundred years has posited that opinion? I haven't run across it, and never seen it mentioned in even the most critical works on the CSA.

I think you need to find less amateur sources if this is who I'm thinking of.

In any event, all this does is speak poorly for his odds of defeating Lee even with two to one numbers, especially since Lee managed to win against longer odds on the defence in 1863 and 1864. All an extra month would do is leave McClellan to be sacked later.

As a field commander, absolutely true. But he was a very effective military administrator, which is not a trivial thing.

McClellan probably would have been much more qualified in an administration position, but he managed to get the highest command, lose it, and then accomplish little.
 
The one major issue with McClellan is while he's a excellent as an administration and trainer of troops, he doesn't have temperament required for a field army commander. Garrison personnel like McClellan are better utilized either as the training command CO, Inspector General, or as a paper pusher in Washington. Putting garrison personnel in command of a field unit in combat will only result in people getting needlessly killed. Looking at the McClellan issue with my military filter on (Iraq War veteran), I would've shuffled him out of army command and have him oversee army training of new men and officers (subpar officers especially in both the company and field grade level was a major problem in the Federal army during the Civil War).
 
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McClellan is sacked January 1863.

He can't uncover his flank with Jackson (which he would most likely assume to be far stronger than it was) and Jackson's foot cavalry could probably march quickly enough to arrive on scene if necessary. That means he is only bringing, at best, 2/3rds of his strength against Longstreet, who will be on the defensive. Most likely the AotP gets blunted somewhere between the Wilderness and Fredericksburg, but they make it no closer to Richmond than they did in the summer.

This is even assuming he attacks in November, which OTL he showed no inclination to do. Quite frankly, he probably squanders the initiative. His greatest sin was being indecisive, and so Lee almost always got one up on him. I can't see an extra month helping him.

I agree. Even assume he can address in isolation with something like a 3:1 advantage, history suggests that McClellan (and his Pinkterton intel folks) would overestimate the enemy's numbers such that McClellan would be operating with just a slight advantage. Add to that, McClellan accounting for the potential of Jackson moving fast, and McClellan isn't likely to move (at least not forward).
 
I agree. Even assume he can address in isolation with something like a 3:1 advantage, history suggests that McClellan (and his Pinkterton intel folks) would overestimate the enemy's numbers such that McClellan would be operating with just a slight advantage. Add to that, McClellan accounting for the potential of Jackson moving fast, and McClellan isn't likely to move (at least not forward).

Precisely. His previous history does not suggest swift action, nor do historical trends suggest Lee would be significantly discomforted fighting against long odds on the defence. McClellan might manage to advance swiftly to contact, but the odds are he does not act decisively and Lee either thrashes him, or lives on to fight another day. The end result is merely that McClellan relinquishes his command a few months later than OTL, and the Army of Northern Virginia might have even higher morale than historically.
 
The one major issue with McClellan is while he's a excellent at administration and trainer, he doesn't have temperament required for a field army commander.

I think McClellan's problem was a subtle one that he couldn't recognize and that no one could explain to him.

I think he was the equivalent of "tone-deaf" in perceiving a battle situation.

Personal analogy: I like music, but reading the commentary of others, especially reviewers, there's a lot going on with music that goes right by me. But there are other areas where I have immediate grasp of things that many others are baffled by.

Some commanders have extreme ability to grasp a tactical situation, and know what to do. Charles XII had it; Rommel was famed for his "fingerspitzengefühl". McClellan was at the opposite end. He could not see clearly what to do or what the actual risks were, and it terrified him (understandably, given his responsibilities). And yet at the same time he was acclaimed as a commander. The language didn't exist to express this situation.
 
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FWIW, Ethan Rafuse thinks an actual attack on Longstreet's wing was probably not going to happen expeditiously, given the problems with the Orange and Alexandria Railroad.
Although McClellan did not write down his operational intentions at this point, it is possible to deduce what they probably were. McClellan, who knew that the two wings of the rebel army were still separated, evidently hoped to catch Longstreet’s command at Culpeper at a disadvantage before Jackson could arrive to help him. However, the fact that on November 6 the Army of the Potomac only had secure control of the O & A as far as Manassas Junction made it highly unlikely that its supply situation would permit a successful strike against Culpeper before Lee could reunite both wings of his army there. McClellan undoubtedly intended to use the impracticality of an attack on Culpeper as the rationale for doing what he wanted to do—abandon the line of operations based on the O&A and adopt one based on the R,F&P.

About the time McClellan was removed, the Army's main depot was at Gainesville on the Manassas Gap, and Pleasonton was ascertaining the condition of the Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac railroad. Rafuse thinks McClellan was consciously sifting his line of operations East as a precursor to returning the army to its true line of operations along the James, similar to the 1864 Overland campaign.
 

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Rafuse thinks McClellan was consciously sifting his line of operations East as a precursor to returning the army to its true line of operations along the James, similar to the 1864 Overland campaign.
I suppose if there's one way to make an ATL Overland Campaign less bloody, it's making Lee terrified of being cut in half and rendering him too preoccupied with reuniting his army. (Though OTL it took something close to two weeks after Lee called for help for the army to actually reunite, Jackson moved incredibly slow for some reason.)
 
Special order 191 is a good example of Mac's cautiousness. IMO, it was an attempt by Lee to lure Mac into action. a more aggressive commander would have taken the bait and been lured in. Mac dithered, and his caution paid off. However, over all, being too cautious doesn't lead to quick results, so an extra month doesn't give Mac the kind of victory he would need to keep command or make a difference in the war.
 
Special order 191 is a good example of Mac's cautiousness. IMO, it was an attempt by Lee to lure Mac into action. a more aggressive commander would have taken the bait and been lured in. Mac dithered, and his caution paid off. However, over all, being too cautious doesn't lead to quick results, so an extra month doesn't give Mac the kind of victory he would need to keep command or make a difference in the war.
What exactly are you talking about? McClellan heard about Special Order 191 on the afternoon of the 13th, immediately drafted the next day's orders, and pounced on the opportunity the very next day with the battles of South Mountain, which trapped and threatened to destroy the two divisions in McLaws's column. Just having a battle at South mountain cost Lee dearly, as the march from Hagerstown to Fox and Turner's Gaps led to immense losses to straggling in Longstreet's command.
 
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