WI Maximilian dies and Mary of Burgundy lives?

Mary would have the chance to become Queen of Naples and to possibly sire a future king, too.

Uh...no she wouldn't. In 1482 Federigo was a second born son of Ferrante I, who has three/four (I can't remember if the Aragonese rule in Naples allowed for female succession or not) bodies to climb over before he gets to be king (although Alfonso II was widowed in August 1484, so Marie COULD consider a match with him rather than Federigo). Ferrante II or Pietro, prince of Rossano can easily live longer (not sure what killed either OTL).

Also, Louis XI encouraged a suit from Naples as a scare/threat tactic to dissuade Nicolas d'Anjou from going after Marie IIRC. In 1482 Nicolas has been mouldering in the grave a fair while, so Louis might not be so encouraging.
 
Uh...no she wouldn't. In 1482 Federigo was a second born son of Ferrante I, who has three/four (I can't remember if the Aragonese rule in Naples allowed for female succession or not) bodies to climb over before he gets to be king (although Alfonso II was widowed in August 1484, so Marie COULD consider a match with him rather than Federigo). Ferrante II or Pietro, prince of Rossano can easily live longer (not sure what killed either OTL).

Also, Louis XI encouraged a suit from Naples as a scare/threat tactic to dissuade Nicolas d'Anjou from going after Marie IIRC. In 1482 Nicolas has been mouldering in the grave a fair while, so Louis might not be so encouraging.

Plenty of second and third sons have ended up king. And yes, Naples allowed female succession—I don't believe there had been any change in the laws and customs of the kingdom when Alfonso I became king, and Naples had some precedence for female succession among the Capetians (Joanna I and Joanna II), but I wasn't even suggesting that Mary herself would become queen regnant, but rather she has a chance to become consort and sire a possible king. Of course, it's a downgrade from being Maximilian's future consort, but hey—Naples was a pretty wealthy kingdom. It's true Frederick's brother has a legitimate son, but Ferdinand II didn't even marry until his ascension. He ended up dying from an illness, not sure what it was. Of course, he could end up living longer, but it's also possible he might not. Butterflies and such. Frederick is fourth in line c. 1482, behind his father who's king, as well as his brother and his nephew. In such a situation he'd definitely made a viable husband as he could join Mary in Burgundy. Would definitely hamper any attempts for him to take the crown. If the Italian Wars still occur in some fashion, it's possible for Ferdinand II to live longer, but if Mary has any issue with Frederick they will have claims to the throne of Naples if the main branch blows up.

Apparently Louis XI also encouraged the suit because it would give him a chance to exchange the claims of Anjou in exchange for Burgundian territories in Maine—not sure what territories, though, as I wasn't aware that Burgundy had any fiefs in that region. By 1482, the Duchy of Anjou and Provence are firmly attached to the French crown, and with Charles the Bold's death, Louis XI had occupied the Burgundian fiefs in France, so it'd be interesting to see where he goes when Mary is left without a husband.
 
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Plenty of second and third sons have ended up king. And yes, Naples allowed female succession—I don't believe there had been any change in the laws and customs of the kingdom when Alfonso I became king, and Naples had some precedence for female succession among the Capetians (Joanna I and Joanna II), but I wasn't even suggesting that Mary herself would become queen regnant, but rather she has a chance to become consort and sire a possible king. Of course, it's a downgrade from being Maximilian's future consort, but hey—Naples was a pretty wealthy kingdom. It's true Frederick's brother Alfonso has two sons, but Ferdinand II didn't even marry until his ascension. He ended up dying from an illness, not sure what it was. Of course, he could end up living longer, but it's also possible he didn't. Alfonso's second son was still alive when Frederick IV became King, he was by-passed in the succession for some reason. But given Frederick is quite far from the crown in 1482, he'd made a viable husband as he could join Mary in Burgundy. Would definitely hamper any attempts for him to take the crown. If the Italian Wars still occur in some fashion, it's possible for Ferdinand II to live longer, but if Mary has any issue with Frederick they will have claims to the throne of Naples if the main branch blows up.

Apparently Louis XI also encouraged the suit because it would give him a chance to exchange the claims of Anjou in exchange for Burgundian territories in Maine—not sure what territories, though, as I wasn't aware that Burgundy had any fiefs in that region. By 1482, the Duchy of Anjou and Provence are firmly attached to the French crown, and with Charles the Bold's death, Louis XI had occupied the Burgundian fiefs in France, so it'd be interesting to see where he goes when Mary is left without a husband.
That was Louis XI's plan for Mary of Burgundy to marry Frederick of Naples at least before 1477, not to his own son.
 
That was Louis XI's plan for Mary of Burgundy to marry Frederick of Naples at least before 1477, not to his own son.

I imagine Louis XI knew that so long as Charles the Bold lived, he had no chance to gaining Mary's hand for his son. With his sudden death, it was suddenly a possibility, as Louis thought it might be possible to spook the Duchess into agreeing to the match by a force of arms. Not to mention the huge age difference—Mary is thirteen years older than Charles VIII. Even if they marry early, when he's 14 or so—that'd made her 27. It's not old—but it's not necessarily young either, especially given mortality rates in the period. The window for them to have issue would be much slimmer.
 
I imagine Louis XI knew that so long as Charles the Bold lived, he had no chance to gaining Mary's hand for his son. With his sudden death, it was suddenly a possibility, as Louis thought it might be possible to spook the Duchess into agreeing to the match by a force of arms. Not to mention the huge age difference—Mary is thirteen years older than Charles VIII. Even if they marry early, when he's 14 or so—that'd made her 27. It's not old—but it's not necessarily young either, especially given mortality rates in the period. The window for them to have issue would be much slimmer.
I think a daughter of Mary and Frederick can marry Charles VIII like the way IOTL Margaret and Charles were betrothed.
 
It's true Frederick's brother has a legitimate son, but

TWO legitimate sons, Ferrante (b.1469) and Pietro, Prince of Rossano (b.1471, d.1491)

And Ferrante didn't marry until his accession because his stepgrandmother's brother in Spain kept dicking with him about the possibility of a match with tthe widowed Infanta Isabel, offering it one moment and withdrawing it the next.

Once he succeeded in November 1495, he realized that Fernando and Isabella weren't going to give him (over Manuel of Portugal, who succeeded in October 1495) their daughter so he settled for Fernando's niece.
 
Would Emperor Frederick fight for Hungarian throne for himself after death of Corvinus? Philip would still be too young to stand a chance, not that Freddy's chances are significantly bigger...
 
Wasn't Frederick rather incompetent?

Pope Pius II wrote of him that "he is a man who would conquer the world, if only he could do so from his armchair". Certainly Friedrich did nothing to stop of Matyas Corvinus OTL AFAIK, so I'm not sure he would act any differently here. He was one of those people who won simply by outliving/outlasting anybody opposed to them.
 
Hopefully Philip will turn out better raised by him then.

Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think Maximilian raised Philip, thought most of his formative years were spent as a "hostage" of the nobles in the low countries so Max couldn't control the region by proxy. I think he might've spent some time in Tyrol after Maximilian married Bianca but for the most part he grew up away from his dad.

On Frederick educating Philip it could be good, he had a role in organising the education of Ladislaus posthumous. Arranged for him to be educated by the future Pope Pius II, before he was forced to surrender Ladislaus to the Celje guy.
 
Pope Pius II wrote of him that "he is a man who would conquer the world, if only he could do so from his armchair". Certainly Friedrich did nothing to stop of Matyas Corvinus OTL AFAIK, so I'm not sure he would act any differently here. He was one of those people who won simply by outliving/outlasting anybody opposed to them.
So it seems, that fight for Hungarian throne would be limited to just two serious candidates-John Albert and Vladislaus. That would cause some serious butterflies, because second Hungarian expedition of John Albert propably would not happen.
 
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