WI Market-Garden is a success?

marcinL

WI due to luck, German mistakes, less Allied mistakes, better planning, better weather, communication working and whatnot, Operation Market-Garden goes like a charm (or as close to it as physically possible), and the XXX Corps crosses the Rhine more or less as planned?
 
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Intosh

The British will be stopped on the Ems, on the Weser or the Elbe, two weeks or one month later...

And the conquest of Western Germany will be a north to south offensive...

Germany will need to take troops from another front to prevent too much Vaterland being conquered by the British so I expected an earlier liberation of northern Italy or Yugoslavia, two secondary front in autumn 1944...

The Germans will not took a single division front the Eastern Front...
 
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mattep74

They will still have supply issues. They also have a salient that will make the Germans come to attack. Were do the Brits go after Arnhem? Strike west to liberate the rest of Holland or north/northeast?
 

Polish Eagle

mattep74 said:
They will still have supply issues. They also have a salient that will make the Germans come to attack. Were do the Brits go after Arnhem? Strike west to liberate the rest of Holland or north/northeast?
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They still need to clear the Scheldt estuary to open Antwerp for supplies. I think by the same token securing the coasts of the Netherlands to relieve the supply bottleneck will be necessary.
 

Cryhavoc101

Donor
  • The Op extends the German Front line significantly
  • Immediately threatens the Ruhr and has outflanked the West wall and more defensive friendly terrain to the south
  • Liberates more of the Netherlands earlier - possibly allowing for an earlier capture of more ports (Rotterdam etc)
  • Immediately threatens to cut off most of 15th Army from direct resupply
  • This makes subsequent German efforts to reinforce the Scheldt area harder and by definition Allied operations to clear 'potentially' easier
  • Pushes V2 rocket launch sites further away from London earlier

I suspect that this would diminish the forces Germany had available for the Bulge ops later in the year (Dec 15) as more of those reserved units used OTL would have to be used instead to man the longer frontage - possibly resulting in the op not going ahead or as has been suggested the counter attack taking place against the 21st Army group instead with the objective to be to restore the Ruhr defences.
For the same reasons it might also have obliged the Germans to be more 'elastic' in places like Hurtgen and Aachen as there would be less reinforcements making those ops cheaper for the Allies.
With forces further East the agreed demarcation lines decided at Yalta might very well be different?
And with greater threat to Germany earlier maybe things begin to unravel with regards to the Criminal Berlin Circus
 
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