WI : Marin Falier successfully transform Venezia into a feudal lordship ?

OTL, Marin Falier's insurrection failed because of tipoffs.
But what if his supporters managed to reverse the republic's government and impose Falier as hereditary ruler?

Would he became sort of a medieval Cromwell, a hiatus within a regular government, with a quick restauration of the medieval republic system?

Or, at the contrary, Venzeia would be ruled by an hereditary ruler as a new system. And in this case, is the city able to remain independent from HRE's grasp or is it would became sort of Great-Duchy, as Florence OTL?
 
OTL, Marin Falier's insurrection failed because of tipoffs.
But what if his supporters managed to reverse the republic's government and impose Falier as hereditary ruler?

Would he became sort of a medieval Cromwell, a hiatus within a regular government, with a quick restauration of the medieval republic system?

Or, at the contrary, Venzeia would be ruled by an hereditary ruler as a new system. And in this case, is the city able to remain independent from HRE's grasp or is it would became sort of Great-Duchy, as Florence OTL?

If Venice goes hereditary and the change endures, then will the title of the leader remain Doge?
 
If Venice goes hereditary and the change endures, then will the title of the leader remain Doge?

I imagine so. During the period of de facto hereditary rule in Florence under the Medici the old title was maintained. It wasn't until the Habsburgs took over that the Grand Duchy was created, and that wasn't a particularly Italian title.
 
I imagine so. During the period of de facto hereditary rule in Florence under the Medici the old title was maintained. It wasn't until the Habsburgs took over that the Grand Duchy was created, and that wasn't a particularly Italian title.

My thought was that we might one day see a local "King of Venice" or "King of Veneto".
 
My thought was that we might one day see a local "King of Venice" or "King of Veneto".

Seeing as Venice was never part of the Empire, the title of Doge does carry prestige beyond her rank. I imagine in any case that Venice will remain La Serenissima, for 'The Most Serene Duchy/Kingdom of Venice' has a nice ring to it. Kingdom is possible, but I almost wonder if the title would be 'Doge of Venice, King of Illyria, of Dalmatia, Prince of Crete, the Aegean and of the Ionian Isles' allowing for a Royal title while maintaining the traditions of Venice.
 
But what would likely be the consequence for Venice?
Would the cities under its yoke, in Adriatic or in Egea, remain under it, gain autonomy or adimistred by another kingdom/city?

I think that a lasting hereditary Duchy of Venice would release its influence on Mediterranea, in order to gain lands in Italy.
 
But what would likely be the consequence for Venice?
Would the cities under its yoke, in Adriatic or in Egea, remain under it, gain autonomy or adimistred by another kingdom/city?

I think that a lasting hereditary Duchy of Venice would release its influence on Mediterranea, in order to gain lands in Italy.

Or might Venice change course (like go hereditary) after somehow facing defeats in its mediterranean empire?
 
Even assuming that Marin Faliero is successful (and it is a big if), he tried to engineer his coup when he was 70 years old :eek:
How long is he going to live? Another 5 or 10 years top. After which I would believe that the old order would reassert itself, same as it happened when there were other short hiatuses of tyranny (IIRC between the 9th and 10th century the families of the Participazio and the Candiano tried in turn to gain dominance and transform the dogeship into an hereditary title, and in 1310 Bajamonte Tiepolo's conspiracy came close to success).
However the oligarchic structure of the Serenissima had already been strengthened, first by de-fanging the Arengo (the assembly of all citizens of Venice), which lost the power to have the final say on the dogal election; in 1297 the closure of the Grand Council limited the memebership to families which had already been on the same council; Tiepolo's failed conspiracy resulted in the creation of the Council of Ten, after 1310; at the same time the dogal powers had been constantly reduced, and the elected doge had to sign a charter of "promissiones", which reduced him to a figurehead, with the effective power in the hands of the Signoria and the Grand Council.
 
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