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Having just read a biography of Augustus, something came to my attention I wasn't aware of; Agrippa and Julia had 2 sons as named above whom IIRC were more or less being groomed to take over the dynasty once Augustus and Agrippa (whom also tragically died before his time ) Both however died young, Lucius of sickness and Gaius in battle IIRC. SO if they live, Tiberius would probably never become Emperor, and neither would any of the other Claudians i don't think. So, what say the learned members?