WI Louis of Spain lives?

Pretty unlikely to happen, unless France started the question sending back Mariana Victoria (and I do not believe who Bourbon would be so stupid to doing that with Louis as King of Spain). Louise Elisabeth had brought a very fat dowry and was still only 14 years old at her husband’s death.


Parma and Tuscany were Charles’ inheritance from his mother’s family so Louis would be obliged to support his brother there, specially as Charles is engaged to Philippe Elisabeth d’Orléans, younger sister of his own wife.

Yes, amusing European politics don’t get in the way.
 
His plans were to focus more on the American colonies rather than the lost Italian territories.

Given the early Borbon tendency towards reform (mean, up until the death of Carlos III you had a Spain that actually seemed on its way to being a modern functioning state on the French model IIRC), I'd posit that it means that Luis would've simply done something similar (not identical, mind) to what Carlos III in reforming the New World viceroyalties to sort of curb their power and make them more manageable.
 
Pretty unlikely to happen, unless France started the question sending back Mariana Victoria (and I do not believe who Bourbon would be so stupid to doing that with Louis as King of Spain). Louise Elisabeth had brought a very fat dowry and was still only 14 years old at her husband’s death.


Parma and Tuscany were Charles’ inheritance from his mother’s family so Louis would be obliged to support his brother there, specially as Charles is engaged to Philippe Elisabeth d’Orléans, younger sister of his own wife.
I think France still sends back MV.
-OTL, the move was a major slap in the face. Spain did not increase in stature during Louis' short reign, so France would still have the audacity to continue as OTL.
-the house of Orleans (from whence LE hails) is out of power
-France's foremost attention in the affair centers around marrying XV and start him pumping out an heir.

At best, Charles remains engaged to Philippe Elisabeth. They probably send her back, though. A diplomatic insult of this magnitude cannot go unanswered. If LE is still acting as a nutjob, they may take the occasion to have the marriage annulled, or send her off to a convent.

Backing Charles for Parma is a fairly easy thing. Despite international assurances, it is not a done deal though. Farnese was worried that the other powers would not honor the agreement, and had to do further wheeling and dealing to make sure it actually came to pass.
 
I think France still sends back MV.
-OTL, the move was a major slap in the face. Spain did not increase in stature during Louis' short reign, so France would still have the audacity to continue as OTL.
-the house of Orleans (from whence LE hails) is out of power
-France's foremost attention in the affair centers around marrying XV and start him pumping out an heir.

At best, Charles remains engaged to Philippe Elisabeth. They probably send her back, though. A diplomatic insult of this magnitude cannot go unanswered. If LE is still acting as a nutjob, they may take the occasion to have the marriage annulled, or send her off to a convent.

Backing Charles for Parma is a fairly easy thing. Despite international assurances, it is not a done deal though. Farnese was worried that the other powers would not honor the agreement, and had to do further wheeling and dealing to make sure it actually came to pass.
She had to negotiate Parma's succession three times and when the duke died the Austrians still occupied it.
 
When were these three times? One of them was after the War of the Quadruple Alliance right?
After the Quadruple Alliance - the Treaty of the Hague - 1720
In negotiations with the Emperor who was nominal overlord of Parma and Tuscany - Treaty of Vienna - 1725
After the Anglo-Spanish War - Treaty of Seville - 1729

Then it was all finally resolved with the Treaty of Vienna - 1731.
 
After the Quadruple Alliance - the Treaty of the Hague - 1720
In negotiations with the Emperor who was nominal overlord of Parma and Tuscany - Treaty of Vienna - 1725
After the Anglo-Spanish War - Treaty of Seville - 1729

Then it was all finally resolved with the Treaty of Vienna - 1731.
Wasn't there a sort of panic induced by Enrichetta d'Este's prenancy with Antonio Farnese's baby as well?
 
IIRC it was confirmed by midwifes that she was pregnant TWICE
I thought the first time the midwives said she was pregnant and the second they said no. And the reason that she got checked a second time was because foreign leadership didn’t think she was pregnant.
 
Hmm, interesting. Assuming she was pregnant but lost the baby, what if she hadn't, and it was a boy. Would a surviving Louis support his half-brothers' claim in that case? (Really just looking for excuses to screw up Spain during this time period lol)
 
Hmm, interesting. Assuming she was pregnant but lost the baby, what if she hadn't, and it was a boy. Would a surviving Louis support his half-brothers' claim in that case? (Really just looking for excuses to screw up Spain during this time period lol)
She was definitely NOT pregnant.
 
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