WI Long Island became its own state?

Wouldn't New York State be renamed too?

Probably not. There's not much of a reason to; downstate New York would just be renamed to distinguish the two. We have the capital, and NYC is the one that originally advocated secession and has a stronger movement. Why should we change our name? In my research for this (admittedly not a lot), I've seen two alternate names for upstate in this situation: West New York (not going to happen... North New York is more likely, but this name was proposed by a politician who lives out in the western Finger Lake areas), or Buffalo (also not going to happen, this was proposed by a downstate journalist, and not by anybody with any actual power). But, most likely, we'd see an upstate state of New York, and a downstate state of Long Island or Hudson or something along those lines.
 

Baskilisk

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This reminds wme of something I read about many years ago. Someone designed a 38 state U.S. one of the points of his plan was to keep Metropolitan areas in the same state. So NYC, Long Island, Westchester and the nearby sections of CT and NJ were the new state of Hudson.
What a coincidence, I was just writing an article about that! Anyways, here is that map, with cities layed over it:
2008_38-States-800.jpg
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Personally, i think it's unneccessary to rename every state; so many states, like Texas, Colorado, Louisiana, and Florida change very little. Also, the borders are very arbitrary, and completely ignore topography and trade, and I think they should conform to existing borders as much as possible. Another thing- of the largest US cities are all in the same state; "Alamo" would easily be the next California in the House of Reps, only with less competition.
 

Baskilisk

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Probably not. There's not much of a reason to; downstate New York would just be renamed to distinguish the two. We have the capital, and NYC is the one that originally advocated secession and has a stronger movement. Why should we change our name? In my research for this (admittedly not a lot), I've seen two alternate names for upstate in this situation: West New York (not going to happen... North New York is more likely, but this name was proposed by a politician who lives out in the western Finger Lake areas), or Buffalo (also not going to happen, this was proposed by a downstate journalist, and not by anybody with any actual power). But, most likely, we'd see an upstate state of New York, and a downstate state of Long Island or Hudson or something along those lines.
But then again the largest city of downstate is New York city, the state's namesake...
I guess it's kinda like Ravenna being the capital of the Roman Empire.
 
But then again the largest city of downstate is New York city, the state's namesake...
I guess it's kinda like Ravenna being the capital of the Roman Empire.

Yes. NYC would make a huge fuss over being forced to change their name, but I think ultimately they'd have to do so. They could always get away with South New York if they really wanted to keep the name.
 

Baskilisk

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Even if they did have to change it to Hudson or something, they'd still just call themselves New Yorkers, because it is just the city...
 
No. Assuming it conforms to downstate New York (Rockland, Westchester, and everything south), people from outside NYC would make up a full third of the population. Include Staten Island, which is a relatively small part of NYC, but is still another half million, and you're getting rather close to even (Staten Island is only really part of NYC officially... neither Staten Islanders nor other people in NYC really consider it part of the city, and there have been a lot of movements to secede from the city).
 
I was thinking of the NYC, Westchester and Long Island state. This seems like what Alexander Hamilton threatened if Upstaters didn´t approve the constitution. So ITTL, what happens to the reduced state of New York? One more thought, if this happens now, the new state could keep OTL New York´s current governor and senators.

Sorry I had a brain fart and forgot that Hillary is longer in the Senate,
 
What a coincidence, I was just writing an article about that! Anyways, here is that map, with cities layed over it:
2008_38-States-800.jpg
P
Personally, i think it's unneccessary to rename every state; so many states, like Texas, Colorado, Louisiana, and Florida change very little. Also, the borders are very arbitrary, and completely ignore topography and trade, and I think they should conform to existing borders as much as possible. Another thing- of the largest US cities are all in the same state; "Alamo" would easily be the next California in the House of Reps, only with less competition.

I had forgotten that in the 38 state plan Älaska is split. Think how small a population Seward would have.
 
Sorry I had a brain fart and forgot that Hillary is longer in the Senate,

It happens. I forget it too, and the new Senator is actually my former Congresswoman. ;)

I dislike Gillibrand, though. She got her Senate position entirely because she's an upstate woman, and she only won her Congress seat because of some controversies around the incumbent, Sweeney (right around election day, it was revealed that he beats his wife... this was later found out to be completely false, despite evidence for it).
 
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