WI:Lev I of Galicia and Wenceslaus II of Bohemia claim Krakow at the same time

I heard that Lev I of Galicia also have ambitions in Poland just like Wenceslaus II of Bohemia, what if both of them decided to annex the Duchy of Krakow leading them two to battle for the Duchy of Krakow and what will happen to Poland if Lev I of Galicia acquires the Duchy of Krakow?
 
Well, no doubt that Lev I. was a great warrior and monarch, waging war wherever he could and founding cities left and right. He founded the city of Lviv for example. He fought for dominance in Lithuania and Poland but not even with the help of the Mongols/Tatars could he win... until he allied himself with one of or greatest kings, Wenceslaus II. Wenceslaus II. was the son of Otakar I.e., the "king of iron and gold", who extended the Bohemian kindom to it's greatest size to include lower Austria, Styria, Carinthia and Trent, stretching us out to the Mediterranean. His son, Wenceslaus II. carried on his legacy and greatness. To answer your question, I believe it would come down to armed conflict and I believe that Bohemia would win. Now, I know my opinion sounds patriotically affected but I am trying to look at this neutrally and logically and am coming up with only one conclusion. Lev I., although a great warrior, could not stand against Bohemia at it's greatest moment with manpower and resources, such as gold and iron from Styria, supporting their armies.
 
Well, no doubt that Lev I. was a great warrior and monarch, waging war wherever he could and founding cities left and right. He founded the city of Lviv for example. He fought for dominance in Lithuania and Poland but not even with the help of the Mongols/Tatars could he win... until he allied himself with one of or greatest kings, Wenceslaus II. Wenceslaus II. was the son of Otakar I.e., the "king of iron and gold", who extended the Bohemian kindom to it's greatest size to include lower Austria, Styria, Carinthia and Trent, stretching us out to the Mediterranean. His son, Wenceslaus II. carried on his legacy and greatness. To answer your question, I believe it would come down to armed conflict and I believe that Bohemia would win. Now, I know my opinion sounds patriotically affected but I am trying to look at this neutrally and logically and am coming up with only one conclusion. Lev I., although a great warrior, could not stand against Bohemia at it's greatest moment with manpower and resources, such as gold and iron from Styria, supporting their armies.
But at that time Bohemia just lost to the Habsburgs..It would be interesting if Bohemia conquered Austria completely...while Lev I had a larger empire although threatened by mongols...
 
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Not at all. At the time of Wenceslaus II. (still a Premyslid) Bohemia still had a decade or more before it came under the rule of Hapsburgs. There is still his son Wenceslaus III. to come and Henry of Carinthia. We were still at the hight of our power. True, just teetering on the edge of going slowly downhill but rather good. We only lost these land after acquiring Krakow. And Lev I. did have a large empire, true but only about a quarter larger than Bohemia and you must realise that Bohemia was a much more westernised country and much more densely populated.
 
Well, as I said, I doubthe could do it but let us indulge put fantasies. If he managed it, he would cut away an important gateway, not the only one but important for Bohemia, gateway into Poland forcing a foot in the door into Poland. He will have weekend them since Krakow was, for example, one the most important salt mines at the time, sending it's salt all the way to Genova for trade. He would also, unfortunately, create a wedge between a Poland, pissed at the loss and powerful enough to have repelled him numerous times before he got help from Bohemia. And, talking of Bohemia, on the other side puff the wedge, an annoyed Bohemia who just lost an important piece of land and quite ready and willing to rearm from their formentioned lands inn Austria. If and that's a very big IF, he could defend against them, he would have opened a window into central Europe.
 
Not at all. At the time of Wenceslaus II. (still a Premyslid) Bohemia still had a decade or more before it came under the rule of Hapsburgs. There is still his son Wenceslaus III. to come and Henry of Carinthia. We were still at the hight of our power. True, just teetering on the edge of going slowly downhill but rather good. We only lost these land after acquiring Krakow. And Lev I. did have a large empire, true but only about a quarter larger than Bohemia and you must realise that Bohemia was a much more westernised country and much more densely populated.

Well, as I said, I doubthe could do it but let us indulge put fantasies. If he managed it, he would cut away an important gateway, not the only one but important for Bohemia, gateway into Poland forcing a foot in the door into Poland. He will have weekend them since Krakow was, for example, one the most important salt mines at the time, sending it's salt all the way to Genova for trade. He would also, unfortunately, create a wedge between a Poland, pissed at the loss and powerful enough to have repelled him numerous times before he got help from Bohemia. And, talking of Bohemia, on the other side puff the wedge, an annoyed Bohemia who just lost an important piece of land and quite ready and willing to rearm from their formentioned lands inn Austria. If and that's a very big IF, he could defend against them, he would have opened a window into central Europe.


I think Wladyslaw the Elbowhigh would had been most likely eliminated first if Lev I tried to gain Krakow as well which also means Euphemia of Kuyavia would not marry Lev I's son (and Jogaila is butterflied from existence) and Wenceslaus II might try to pick the pieces and fight an already tired Lev I, I think Elisabeth Richeza should had been married to his son Wenceslaus III not to Wenceslaus II himself, I think the likely wife for Wenceslaus II at this point would be Euphemia of Kuyavia or Jadwiga of Greater Poland, the Widow of Wladyslaw the Elbowhigh.

I think after the war Yuri, Lev I's son would had married Kunigunde of Bohemia instead..
 
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